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Thread: Gerry as Uachtaran na hEireann? New SF leader?

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    This is hardly news is it?Why else would adams want to speak in leinster house?

    He wants to raise his profile in the south.He'll never get it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus
    This is hardly news is it?Why else would adams want to speak in leinster house?

    He wants to raise his profile in the south.He'll never get it though.
    That is a load of Bollocks, Gerry Adams has a high a profile as Bertie Ahern in the 26 counties.

    Speaking rights for elected representative of all parties from the 6 counties in the Dáil should be automatic, seeing as all the main parties in the 26 claim that the re-unification of Ireland is a part of their main goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
    Gerry being elected president? There is more chance of Leitrim winning the all-Ireland. And I am talking in hurling people!
    I have no idea of Leitrim's hurlin ability, but there is no chance of Adams ever being President of this country.

    Think about it, he'd have to get 50%+1 of the votes at some stage in vote and that's never going to happen. Even Hitler at his most popular could only command 35%.

    I think that if Bertie doesn't want the job (and I believe that he doesn't) then whoever gets the FF nomination will be hard to beat. "Accidents" like Brian Lenihan are are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithM
    Think about it, he'd have to get 50%+1 of the votes at some stage in vote and that's never going to happen. Even Hitler at his most popular could only command 35%.
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    That is a load of ********, Gerry Adams has a high a profile as Bertie Ahern in the 26 counties.
    I wouldnt say that to be honest and adams wouldnt have the same acceptability or constituitionalism yet as bertie (if you in fact could call bertie acceptable,unfournate choice if there ever was one)

    Seeking speaking rights for elected representative of all parties from the 6 counties in the Dáil should be automatic, seeing as all the main parties in the 26 claim that the re-unification of Ireland is a part of their main goals.
    They dont regard re-unification as part of their main goals as they signed the gfa that meant the constituitional issue was resolved and the north could govern themselves.
    Besides in the eyes of most people sadly under the st andrews agreement and gfa they regard the 6 counties as a sovereign state now and not an ungovernable one.

    I dont honestly believe adams could put forward anything further towards the national issue than o caolain or ferris in leinster house and id hate to give him an additional platform to publicly criticise others so cynically while looking the utter creep which is an injustice to republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus
    They dont regard re-unification as part of their main goals as they signed the gfa that meant the constituitional issue was resolved and the north could govern themselves.
    Besides in the eyes of most people sadly under the st andrews agreement and gfa they regard the 6 counties as a sovereign state now and not an ungovernable one.
    The GFA dosen't solve the constitutional issue, what it provides is the means for the people of the 6 counties to decide it and to alter that arrangement if they desire. In the meantime it provides for a powersharing assembly and executive to provide local governance to the area, with north-south bodies in areas of common interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus
    I dont honestly believe adams could put forward anything further towards the national issue than o caolain or ferris in leinster house and id hate to give him an additional platform to publicly criticise others so cynically while looking the utter creep which is an injustice to republicans.
    In areas of policy such as cross border issues on development and health etc, why shouldn't 6 county representatives be allowed to speak in the Dáil on these issues.

    I think your allowing your personal dislike for Sinn Féin or Adams mask the protential benefits of this.

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    May I suggest that if individuals wish to speak in dail eireann they should present themselves to the electorate at election time. If the oireachtas wish to invite someone from a foreign country to speak...thats fine once in a while...mandela, hawke, kennedy...are examples of this...........enough said...

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    Adams has no chance whatsoever of becoming President of Ireland.

    1. SF would need to have 20 Oireachtas members or control 4 county councils to deliver a nomination. That is highly unlikely.

    2. There is considerable voter resistence to voting for SF candidates. That is why SF candidates, even when they pick up enough votes as first preferences to theoretically be in the running for a seat, run into a problem with transfers.

    So Adams would need to win the 50% + 1 vote in the first count to win the office. The chances of that are slim.

    Maybe he should seek a nomination to the House of Lords instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Analyser
    Adams has no chance whatsoever of becoming President of Ireland.

    1. SF would need to have 20 Oireachtas members or control 4 county councils to deliver a nomination. That is highly unlikely.

    2. There is considerable voter resistence to voting for SF candidates. That is why SF candidates, even when they pick up enough votes as first preferences to theoretically be in the running for a seat, run into a problem with transfers.

    So Adams would need to win the 50% + 1 vote in the first count to win the office. The chances of that are slim.

    Maybe he should seek a nomination to the House of Lords instead.

    How do you know which way the 45% of non-voters would swing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Analyser
    Adams has no chance whatsoever of becoming President of Ireland.

    1. SF would need to have 20 Oireachtas members or control 4 county councils to deliver a nomination. That is highly unlikely.

    2. There is considerable voter resistence to voting for SF candidates. That is why SF candidates, even when they pick up enough votes as first preferences to theoretically be in the running for a seat, run into a problem with transfers.

    So Adams would need to win the 50% + 1 vote in the first count to win the office. The chances of that are slim.

    Maybe he should seek a nomination to the House of Lords instead.

    The Analyser, neither Sinn Féin or Gerry Adams have ever put forward the notion of him running for the presidents position of the 26 counties. This is some bored or lazy journalist filling page space with speculation to sell papers.

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