Gerry as Uachtaran na hEireann? New SF leader?

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Seamus wrote:
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if the right is gaurunteed for northern representation to speak in leinster house, in the short term your proberly right. there will be a large boycott.



And its the same for the long term also.

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but if the SDLP or the unionist parties or a new party see a stratigic advantage in it. then it will be taken up then, things change. economics, socialogical trends, demographics since the start of time allways shift.


By that logic people within the psf may accept speaking rights in westminster.
The SDLP have no interest in the national issue and all the ramblings of there members and supporters is to out shin the shinners and it wouldnt be hard as both parties are as constituitional as each other.

The loyalists wont speak in leinster house as they dont have to quite frankly.


so if i understand you correctly your objection to northern representation speaking rights in leinster house is that the SDLP and the unionists have no interest in it? That thinking could be used for any initative to decreasse the relevence of the boarder, and while in should be factor'd into the development of stratagy i don't see it as enough to call a halt to any all ireland development. at the end of the day people have the right to disagree with the SDLP and the unionists and anyone else and manifest that disagreement through freedom of speach,assembly etc.

The fact the stoops and the loyalists have no interest in it proves how unpractical it would be, but my objections would be that its gives the impression that the issue is solved i.e a working stormont parliment with vague watery references to leinster house.

Then theres the utter uselessness of leinster house in itself and the most pressing issue is that adams et al would use it for there own narrow politcal ends while condemning us and others.

what if you got elected to it, would there be no value in it. say you went up the road and representing the people of armagh, use it as a platform to say whats happening, build on it demand voting rights etc

[Seamus]

what if you got elected to it, would there be no value in it. say you went up the road and representing the people of armagh, use it as a platform to say whats happening, build on it demand voting rights etc

No value in it as far as i can see because if someone was elected who shared the 32CSM view although not a member the publicly gained from such a victory would be a platform in itself but i personally would be against the idea of electoral politics with the 32CSM and the position we have on elections is by far the correct one.

Leinster house is very much overrated and i can see nothing being solved there which would benefit republicanism in light of the st andrews agreement.

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what if you got elected to it, would there be no value in it. say you went up the road and representing the people of armagh, use it as a platform to say whats happening, build on it demand voting rights etc

No value in it as far as i can see because if someone was elected who shared the 32CSM view although not a member the publicly gained from such a victory would be a platform in itself but i personally would be against the idea of electoral politics with the 32CSM and the position we have on elections is by far the correct one.

Leinster house is very much overrated and i can see nothing being solved there which would benefit republicanism in light of the st andrews agreement.

yeah i half agree and half disagree with that. Leinster hse is over rated but in my opinion every thing has value. your not for turning any way, so i'll leave you alone so.

[Seamus]

yeah i half agree and half disagree with that. Leinster hse is over rated but in my opinion every thing has value. your not for turning any way, so i'll leave you alone so.

Well im always open to opinions,ideas and debate from anyone on anything but i cant see whatever issue that concerns elected reps in the north cant be solved on this new committee.

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yeah i half agree and half disagree with that. Leinster hse is over rated but in my opinion every thing has value. your not for turning any way, so i'll leave you alone so.

Well im always open to opinions,ideas and debate from anyone on anything but i cant see whatever issue that concerns elected reps in the north cant be solved on this new committee.

yeah was hoping for a bit more than a committe meeting. but in my view it's a start, as you'd know from monaghan how un natural the boarder is, if that can be brought home to people around the rest of this state and that can only happen with talking