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    Socratus O' Pericles Socratus O' Pericles is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    The southern tip of South Africa was not inhabited by Negros when the Dutch arrived

    - but by the San people IIRC

    - who are not Black

    Also South Africa also has a considerable number of people of south Asian origins

    Ever see the film 'Ghandi'?

    Also the Cape Coloureds of Capetown are recognised as a separate racial group
    So what? the Dutch are the immigrants and they certainly had a deleterious effect on the pre existing population's culture, livelihood and way of being............ or at least that seems to be the argument advanced by modern day racists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    "Genoeg is genoeg." - ''Enough is Enough'' as White Farmers protest at the Murder Rate in South Africa

    South Africa has a huge problem with the murder of its citizens - topping near 20,000 a year out of a pop of approx. 55 Million

    While the rural murder rate is a lot lower - amongst rural White farmers it is very high

    Thousands have been murdered since the end of Apartheid and the numbers are now on the rise once again.

    There is a line of argument that while robbery may well be a motive the inclusion of racist overtones cannot be ruled out either

    Hopefully by organising themselves they can draw International attention to the way they are being treated:

    "Genoeg is genoeg." - Enough is enough. That was the message on Monday, as (mostly white) activists carried crosses and blocked roads to demand better protection for South Africa's farms, after they were targeted in a spate of murders.
    The South African Police Service has argued that the majority of attackers are motivated purely by a desire to rob farmers, but the country's Institute of Race Relations has warned there may be a racial element to some of the attacks.
    There's a sense in some quarters that white farmers are being targeted in particular.
    Are protesters right on South Africa farm murders? - BBC News

    Merc will of course be all over this one, and condemn the racist South African government and its black-majority population who are systematically oppressing white people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJames2 View Post
    South Africa is what awaits Europe and North America if immigration continues.
    I choose to interpret this post as clever satire.
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    Send them home!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC Principle View Post
    Merc will of course be all over this one, and condemn the racist South African government and its black-majority population who are systematically oppressing white people?
    Did you not recently claim that race is never a source of privilege?

    Maybe you'd like to reconsider?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    I choose to interpret this post as clever satire.
    Well, that's your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notachipanoaktree View Post
    I wish you idiots could be rounded up and given a one way flight to Nigeria. When you see reality in the rough you might not be so open with other peoples rights and hard won freedoms..
    (Nigeria and South Africa are different countries btw. I'm sure you wouldn't want people to think you had conflated the two because you just see all African countries as interchangeable)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    I choose to interpret this post as clever satire.
    Your boundlessly optimistic reading of human nature will be your undoing one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    The southern tip of South Africa was not inhabited by Negros when the Dutch arrived

    - but by the San people IIRC

    - who are not Black
    Laughing. Cannot believe someone is coming out with that long debunked myth.
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    If they don't get their act together, the Zimbabwian experience awaits.

    Before 2000, land-owning farmers had large tracts of land and used economies of scale to raise capital, borrow money when necessary, and purchase modern mechanized farm equipment to increase productivity on their land. Because the primary beneficiaries of the land reform were members of the Government and their families, despite the fact that most had no experience in running a farm, the drop in total farm output has been tremendous and has even produced starvation and famine, according to aid agencies.[53] Export crops have suffered tremendously in this period. Whereas Zimbabwe was the world's sixth largest producer of tobacco in 2001,[54] in 2005 it produced less than a third the amount produced in 2000.[55] Zimbabwe was once so rich in agricultural produce that it was dubbed the "bread basket" of Southern Africa, while it is now struggling to feed its own population.[56] About 45 percent of the population is now considered malnourished. Crops for export such as tobacco, coffee and tea have suffered the most under the land reform. The main everyday food for Zimbabweans, maize, has been reduced by 31%, while small grains production has grown by 163%.[34]
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