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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter-Gatherer View Post
    If anybody knocks on my dublin door i tell them to eff off
    That’s cause you live in flats on the 4th floor.. ahem
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    Racism, no.

    Xenophobic stereotyping, yes.
    Well the message she is trying to convey is that Irish Accent = Trouble.

    People are very quick to call out racism elsewhere but when it is directed at us, it appears to be a case of "ah sure it's probably warranted to be sure to be sure".
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    Are we a 'race' or simply a 'nationality'?

    The word race and racism seems to mean nothing anymore due to the extent of its over use and the inaccuracy of its use in many cases...

    So there's some Irish scam artists doing in Australia what many Irish scam artists do the world over... I honestly don't see the issue with highlighting their nationality although I'd probably advise people not to accept work from anyone who knocks at their door trying to sell goods and services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Well the message she is trying to convey is that Irish Accent = Trouble.

    People are very quick to call out racism elsewhere but when it is directed at us, it appears to be a case of "ah sure it's probably warranted to be sure to be sure".
    Em It is Warranted go do a google search here is a couple links of the very very very many scams in australia involving Irish citizens .
    Irish are getting a very bad name in australia which is a shame but people saying the Irish are behaving badly over their are spot on. Same as the problems we are having with a certain romanian group . It is not Racism it is fact.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...scam-1.2076836

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...alia-1.3011203

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...m-from-victims
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    Quote Originally Posted by cytex View Post
    Em It is Warranted go do a google search here is a couple links of the very very very many scams in australia involving Irish citizens .
    Irish are getting a very bad name in australia which is a shame but people saying the Irish are behaving badly over their are spot on. Same as the problems we are having with a certain romanian group . It is not Racism it is fact.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...scam-1.2076836

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...alia-1.3011203

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...m-from-victims
    Sure. Some Irish people in Australia are scam artists. But most are not and are genuine workers. Using language like "lock your door to anyone with an Irish accent" conflates the entire Irish people as scam artists. That is racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Sure. Some Irish people in Australia are scam artists. But most are not and are genuine workers. Using language like "lock your door to anyone with an Irish accent" conflates the entire Irish people as scam artists. That is racist.
    It's xenophobic rather than racist. Xenophobic and ignorant to be accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Well the message she is trying to convey is that Irish Accent = Trouble.

    People are very quick to call out racism elsewhere but when it is directed at us, it appears to be a case of "ah sure it's probably warranted to be sure to be sure".
    There is no Irish race, look up the definition of racism.

    Xenophobic stereotyping yes, racism no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter-Gatherer View Post
    If anybody knocks on my dublin door i tell them to eff off
    I suspect that will be a lot of small scam artists will knock my door tonight
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    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...alia-1.3256641

    “It has changed a lot,” said Fitzsimons, who left Dublin at 16. “They send a lot of gob************************es out here now. I am serious about that. All they think about doing is going to the pub, getting pissed and getting in trouble.
    “Years ago it was mostly families and all that. But then when the recession came in Ireland, they came out.”
    Phillis McGrath calls some of these recent Irish emigrants “bludgers” – Australian slang for scroungers. They arrive in Australia with not enough money to support themselves, she says, and the bureau steps in to help them.
    “This was started for the old people to look after the old people and it has gone the other way,” she said.
    Eugene O’Rourke (76) said that many Irish come out at Christmas time when the weather is warm and “they have one too many and they forget where they are”. There are drownings, car accidents, other tragedies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    There is no Irish race, look up the definition of racism.

    Xenophobic stereotyping yes, racism no.
    Race:
    A group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/de...#race_Noun_200

    That was the context in which I understand race, as defined above. And in that context, I judged it to be racist. A phobia would suggest fear.
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