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    Mexico - Stability, security, and social tensions.

    Mexico has been in the news a lot with respect to the US elections.

    Even before Trump got involved, in blaming Mexico for America's hollowing out, the US media gave Mexico a bad representation, with coverage that was predominantly about drugs gangs. For many Mexicans, America is the problem as it has an enormous demand for Cocaine. Hollywood was so accustomed to cast villains as Mexicans, that the Mexican government at one point decided to incentivize film producers to depict Mexico positively.

    Spectre: Mexico 'paying $20m' for positive portrayal in new James Bond film | The Independent

    The election of Trump might represent a flow of manufacturing employment back to American cities, but south of the Rio Grande, this movement represents bad news.

    Even before this starts there are protests and social tensions in Mexico. The people at the bottom of the ladder are protesting now. But for most Mexicans, there are concerns about the narco-terrorism, businesses owning politicians. and corruption.

    Recently there have been protests relating to oil product prices, and the cost of living.

    Protests in Mexico Push Country to Brink of Revolution

    This thread is with respect to coverage of social tensions in Mexico, which may deteriorate if Mexico's economy starts to lose manufacturing employment. Mexico's war on drugs continues. Low oil prices, and a decline in oil production may influence Mexico's financial situation. The MXP has lost ground since Hillary Clinton fainted in NYC, on the anniversary of 9/11. This has impacted the Mexican Bond market.
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    It's sad to see a thread like this languishing with no replies while Cyberianpan's nonsense attracts lots of - albeit outraged - attention.
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    Agreed, lot of substance in the lads post but a bit above most of the grunts in here.

    Hasta la vista
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    Should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world. It's a real shame.

    Revolutionary talk is commonplace.. it's part of the culture... hardly surprising, in the circumstances.

    Somehow I think Mexico's problems are beyond the ability of a simple vote to change.. I don't see the point of revolution.. there is too much machismo.. (the replacements would be other strongmen)... the change will take generations.
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    BBC reports on the impact of the Trump election on NAFTA. A more business-minded article but agrees that millions of peasant farmers were displaced by NAFTA in exchange for a smaller increase in manufacturing jobs.

    Mexico and Mr Trump: What will happen to trade ties? - BBC News

    I worked in the much-maligned maquiladoras at a time when there was a lot of optimism. Technology manufacturing was replacing clothes factories and there were so many jobs that labour turnover was 50% as people left to get better jobs - sometimes after only a few weeks in the previous job!

    If protectionism and immigration controls ramp up, unemployment will skyrocket with nowhere for displaced workers to go. Perhaps the revolutionary rhetoric in the OP article isn't far off.
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    EU to the rescue. Replace NAFTA with an equivalent EU-Mexico treaty- and quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by farnaby View Post
    BBC reports on the impact of the Trump election on NAFTA. A more business-minded article but agrees that millions of peasant farmers were displaced by NAFTA in exchange for a smaller increase in manufacturing jobs.

    Mexico and Mr Trump: What will happen to trade ties? - BBC News

    I worked in the much-maligned maquiladoras at a time when there was a lot of optimism. Technology manufacturing was replacing clothes factories and there were so many jobs that labour turnover was 50% as people left to get better jobs - sometimes after only a few weeks in the previous job!

    If protectionism and immigration controls ramp up, unemployment will skyrocket with nowhere for displaced workers to go. Perhaps the revolutionary rhetoric in the OP article isn't far off.
    Yesterday President elect Trump named several countries which he accuses of 'exploiting' America ie have participated in a level playing field wrt trade- three of them were China, Mexico and Japan. He has nothing to complain about, ( and certainly not 'free movement of people' to manage) but America has long cultivated a tone of injury, rarely questioned at home, alongside it's near relation, the hysterical concern to 'keep America safe'.

    The EU is wondering (from) where (in the world) it's next generation of workers is coming from. Well, it could begin ties with Mexico, aiming to replace the NAFTA treaty simultaneously with a similar EU-Mexico treaty; and none of the unnecessary nonsense about 'free-movement of workers' which would still leave Mexico as a weak and under-developed exporter of it's own people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly Ticks View Post
    Should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world. It's a real shame.
    Fair point.

    Mexico has a large amount of financial capital. Unfortunately it is too concentrated to enable a massive productivity improvement.

    Mexico also has an excellent workforce.

    And Mexican educational standards have improved in recent decades.

    Political corruption, the power of the wealthy next door, the CIA, a dangerous concentration of wealth with Mexican society amongst too few, and the narco-terror, are serious impediments.

    Mexicans are mostly thoroughly decent, honourable people. I wish they would get it all together.

    Maybe the current circumstance is a wake up call to young educated Mexicans to turn Mexico into the Singapore of the Americas.

    There really is an urgent need for Mexico to undergo a considerable rethink of how Mexico operates.
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