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    former wesleyan former wesleyan is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by dammit_im_mad View Post
    The sooner this evil corrupt regime falls the better.

    They are spreading toxic wahabbist ideology all over the world using their oil money, supporting ISIS headhackers in Syria, in Libya etc etc, and working with the US to destabilise russia using oil as a weapon (barely a peep out of the US govt about saudi's actions causing serious damage to US fracking ops because they really don't care about that as long as Russia is damaged economically)

    The princes live it up in decadent europe in the finest brothels and casinos, with the most expensive cars, jewellery, penthouses, yachts and stock portfolios.

    US political cover means they can pretty much do what they like with little negative media attention. ( Compare and contrast with Russia / Iran / North Korea where they are lambasted regularly even when they DONT do anything. The media still manage to concoct fake stories to keep up the demonisation)

    meanwhile the country of SA has the most abysmal human rights record and
    ordinary people live under strict wahabbist tyranny.
    Sickening place. Sickening hypocrisy in the media coverage
    The ordinary people don't see it that way. They get " jobs " in " security " if they're tribals. The middle classes head off to de west for their education. They get a high dollar bonus for every child and a big American car is within the reach of most people. The Bedouin prefer Toyota pick ups, but thats personal preference. Of course there are young intellectuals who chomp at the freedom bit bit, but they're a minority.
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    The Wahabbi are not a national ethnic culture. They are even new in being protectors of the holy cities. They are just a tight collection of families. The entire peninsula could be a federal republic. There is no danger of a cailiphate as the regional powers of Pakistan Egypt
    or Iran will cancel each other out. Hope to God I live to see Saudi fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter-Gatherer View Post

    "Also remember that the whole country was set up on a whim by some western powers"
    Is that true? At the time Saudi Arabia was created, oil had not been discovered in it. As a result the western powers were not in the least interested. Even in the 1950s Saudi Arabia could not pay its debts.
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    Well Saudi Arabia and Jordan were put in place by the British Empire....now supported by the US....the wise man doesnt build a formation on sand..... Couldnt resist that last pun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    Many years ago a friend showed me a video of a amputation for theft in Saudi. They held the guy sitting on the ground and held his arm out straight. Another guy then proceeded to cut off his hand with a short curved blade. Like a scimitar penknife. It was disgusting. He struggled but was helpless. I was annoyed with my friend for showing it to me. You can't unsee it.

    If our western governments just came out and said it's because we need the hydrocarbons, then fine, invade them and take it.
    The hypocritical talk about bringing democracy and human rights to countries like that is such a waste of time. That's up to them.

    I was kind of hoping ISIS would flood the place, but the Sauds et al would be long gone, leaving the rest to face hell.
    I also hoped ISIS would try a frontal assault on Israel just to see the Israelis take the gloves off. I might be sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenshane4 View Post
    Is that true? At the time Saudi Arabia was created, oil had not been discovered in it. As a result the western powers were not in the least interested. Even in the 1950s Saudi Arabia could not pay its debts.
    Back then the 'great game' was in full swing.

    It was about empire, buffer zones, access routes for markets and trade.

    When oil later became so important the 'great game' got a whole lot more real. The folly of man.
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    Saudi riyal in danger as oil war escalates - Telegraph

    If Saudi devalues its hardly a panacea as it will import massive inflation, foreigners will desert it with their pay devalued and the resulting economic distress leading to hundred of thousands of jobs going south anyway. It won't be a cure for their deficit either as their defence spending will go up in the devaluation and their costs of spreading Wahhabism as well in wars like Syria will rise as well.
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    Gang Raped Saudi Woman Sentenced to 200 Lashes and Jail Term

    A 19 year old Saudi woman who was raped by 7 men has been sentenced to 6 months jail term and 200 lashes for speaking about crime and indecency to the media.

    According to the reports in the Middle East Monitor, a Shia woman was in the car of a student friend when 2 men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area, where she was raped by 7 men. The rapists are sentenced to 5 years of jail term.

    As per Saudi law, a male family member is supposed to accompany a woman at all hours in public. The victim was initially sentenced to 90 lashes for breaking this law. ...

    The victim’s lawyer Abdul Rahman al-Lahem, appealed to the court of Saudi Arabia after the court increased the lashes from 90 to 200. However, on finding the woman guilty about speaking with the media, the lawyer was banned and his license was confiscated.

    Gang Raped Saudi Woman Sentenced to 200 Lashes and Jail Term - The New Indian Express
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramon Mercadar View Post
    Gang Raped Saudi Woman Sentenced to 200 Lashes and Jail Term

    A 19 year old Saudi woman who was raped by 7 men has been sentenced to 6 months jail term and 200 lashes for speaking about crime and indecency to the media.

    According to the reports in the Middle East Monitor, a Shia woman was in the car of a student friend when 2 men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area, where she was raped by 7 men. The rapists are sentenced to 5 years of jail term.

    As per Saudi law, a male family member is supposed to accompany a woman at all hours in public. The victim was initially sentenced to 90 lashes for breaking this law. ...

    The victim’s lawyer Abdul Rahman al-Lahem, appealed to the court of Saudi Arabia after the court increased the lashes from 90 to 200. However, on finding the woman guilty about speaking with the media, the lawyer was banned and his license was confiscated.

    Gang Raped Saudi Woman Sentenced to 200 Lashes and Jail Term - The New Indian Express
    Evil c*nts!
    Any chance of sanctions by western governments for this brutal behaviour?
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    Saudi nuclear ambitions.

    It's actually quite an ambitious state:
    Nuclear Power in Saudi Arabia - World Nuclear Association

    Saudi Arabia intends to build 16 nuclear power plants in the next 25 years.
    Since 2010 the government of Saudi Arabia has concluded, 'The development of atomic energy is essential to meet the Kingdom's growing requirement for energy...'

    This is future-proofing and diversifying Saudi Arabia's highly energy dependent economy; and arguably prioritises reducing global warming over reducing the potential risks relating to nuclear reactors.
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