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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
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    It isn't a given that they'll exist in 2009.
    LOL They will. The pundits have been writing their obituary for 20 years now. And they will still be doing so in another 20 years.
    I actually agree with Trefor. With the establishment buying in wholesale to their free market claptrap, their raison d'etre is at the very least undermined.
    In fairness, even Sinn Fein have gone PD on their tax policy. What's the proposed rate now? 50% on everything over 100K? And that's just a semantic rate to pretend to tax the rich. Want to watch those glass house windows, we're all PDs now. :wink:
    Yeah right.... SF have just announced they want to end tax-incentives for private-pensions. Private-pensions are needed to reduce the burden on the State, but they want to remove the incentives and effectively load much more of the burden onto the shoulders of the State. They are tax-and-spend and 50% is still ludicrously high and would destroy the economy by making the rich - who pay most of our taxes btw- send their cash abroad to offshore bank-accounts and the taxman wouldn't see any of it.

    Munion I think your best bet for Euro 2009 is somehow persuading Marion Harkin - seen as close to the party ideologically - to join the PDs and run on a PD ticket in 2009. She would benefit from the PD's Galway base. Otherwise maybe get Donal Lyons instead. I also think maybe Des O'Malley should consider running again in Munster he would have taken a seat in 1994 had Cox not stood against him when he promised not to run for Europe. Alternatively maybe Mairin Quill. Wendy Hederman or Victor Boyhan could stand in Dublin. John Dardis, Kate Walsh or Walter Lacey could stand in Leinster. Failure to stand would play into the hands of the media obituarists as evidence of a party in decline.
    Tax and spend? Do you ever read the press releases put out by PDs demanding "more resources" for their constituency? We're all tax and spend, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munion
    The PDs main priority for the first 20 years of their existence was turn around our failing economy via cutting taxes and promoting free enterprise and also to combat political corruption.

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    No Im not a pinkie but yes you must be reminded of your abject failure in the Bertiegate affair.
    I was a closet PD admirer but not any more. As P Hogan said at the FG function a stamp with McDowells face on it wont stick because people will be spitting on the wrong side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivershannon
    Quote Originally Posted by Munion
    The PDs main priority for the first 20 years of their existence was turn around our failing economy via cutting taxes and promoting free enterprise and also to combat political corruption.

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    No Im not a pinkie but yes you must be reminded of your abject failure in the Bertiegate affair.
    I was a closet PD admirer but not any more. As P Hogan said at the FG function a stamp with McDowells face on it wont stick because people will be spitting on the wrong side.
    66% in polls say that the PDs should stay in govt so you are obviously not representative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
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    The PDs main priority for the first 20 years of their existence was turn around our failing economy via cutting taxes and promoting free enterprise and also to combat political corruption.

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    No Im not a pinkie but yes you must be reminded of your abject failure in the Bertiegate affair.
    I was a closet PD admirer but not any more. As P Hogan said at the FG function a stamp with McDowells face on it wont stick because people will be spitting on the wrong side.
    66% in polls say that the PDs should stay in govt so you are obviously not representative.
    Including 70% of PD voters and a substantial minority of FG voters. If I were McD I'd be wondering how to get those soft FG voters. How about constant use of the phrase "Enda Kenny is a great man, and an inspiration."
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    Yes...I believe they will.....Deputy Tom Morrissey(Dublin North) will probably be their next MEP...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjimryan
    Yes...I believe they will.....Deputy Tom Morrissey(Dublin North) will probably be their next MEP...........
    U are optimistic :!: given his chances are somewhere between none and none

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    Quote Originally Posted by President Bartlet
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    Yes...I believe they will.....Deputy Tom Morrissey(Dublin North) will probably be their next MEP...........
    U are optimistic :!: given his chances are somewhere between none and none
    If they can get him around the doors his chances will improve quite markedly. Tom is actually quite a nice guy, and it comes across. The problem is that the PD label costs you more votes than it wins you.
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