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Any news on the old grassroots of the PDs re-emerging into a new economic and socially liberal political party?
I thought this forum was closed?
Anyway, yeah - what hole has Tom Morrissey vanished down since he declared his intention to set up a new party? Is he running in the local elections?
Tom Morrissey retired.
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
Considering the PD's were a socially and economically right-wing party I cannot see many of their members forming a new liberal party. Snap!!! I bet I wasn't the only one to realise that...
actually the PDs were a liberal partyOriginally Posted by Darren Mac an Phríora
Progressive Democrats :: Liberal Political Party, Republic of Ireland :: About Us
so maybe you were the only one to realise that!
If we were all born equal we would all be white, middle-class, middle-aged men!
If you were a teenager/school leaver in the 80's the pds were seen as a liberal party who attacked the old social and economic order which was dominant in this country at that time. They believed that to be considered a true republic we needed to remove any influence of religion from the workings of the state. Therefore bringing us closer to been a secular state. Their policy of lower taxes for paye workers cant be seen as right wing economics as the paye worker was crippled by tax at that time.
Everyone should merge to Fine Gael. Left/right/conservative/liberal. So all is left is FF and non-FF. Then only non-FF. I'm not saying a one party state, just I think we need to rid of political parties.
Bring back Brehon law!
There is a distinct liberal ideology in Ireland that is non aligned and was not part of the Progressive Democrats. There are liberals in all the major parties, this raises the question what do Liberals stand for? Liberals subscribe to the Oxford Manifesto of the Liberal International 1947
Oxford Manifesto 1947 - Manifesto - Politics - Liberalism
Generally Liberals wish to build and safeguard a fair, free and open society, in which we seek to uphold the fundamental values of liberty, equality, justice and civility, and in which no-one shall be enslaved by poverty, ignorance or conformity.
Liberals champion the freedom, dignity and well-being of individuals, we acknowledge and respect the individual right to freedom of conscience and each individual's right to develop their talents to the full. We aim to disperse power equally among all citizens, to foster diversity and to nurture creativity.
Liberals believe that the role of the state is to enable all citizens to attain these ideals, to contribute fully to their communities and to take part in the decisions which affect their lives. Liberals believe absolutely that government is the servant of law-abiding citizens in equal measure. Government derives its power from the people under the constitution which document should require a true separation of powers to ensure a proper system of checks and balances designed to uphold the rights and interests of the whole of those law abiding citizens and not to the advantage of local and vested interest. We reject the concentration of political power in the hands of the few, believing that only through merit can a fair and just society be well and truly founded.
Liberal, Conservative etc all these labels are rather meaningless...
Economic Left/Right: 0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.67
I would politely disagree, Liberalism is dynamic and based on the evolutionary belief in reform designed to enhance the rights of law abiding citizens and their relationship with government. Liberalism is wedded to the political centre, accepting a third way between the politics of the left and right. Liberal thought is based on moderation and understanding, coupled with the belief that the fundamental guarantee of the rights of the citizen is through the observation and enforcement of the law throughout society.
Generally liberals aim:
(a) To promote progressive policies and meritocracy in Irish Society.
(b) To promote constitutional and legislative reform to ensure greater democracy and transparency in our system of government.
(c ) To promote the teaching and learning of Civics, Law and Politics at primary, secondary and third level education.
(d) To promote economic enterprise while ensuring the dignity and rights of employees.
(e) To promote civic pride and social responsibility among our fellow citizens.
(f) To promote democracy, the rule of law, respect for individual liberties and the maintenance of a market economy.
Liberals believe in fiscal responsibility, and prudence on the understanding that government is the trustee of the taxpayer, and that public funds should be used sparingly and for the common good. We believe in a smaller and more efficient government that is neither wasteful- cumbersome or intrusive into the lives of law-abiding citizens. Liberals believe in a fair system of taxation, and reject all methods and practices, which exclude the wealthy and the powerful from paying their fair share.
Liberals believe that a government is negligent and in breach of its fundamental duty to its citizens where it maintains schemes which allow the wealthiest citizens to avoid contributing to the welfare of the state and the common good. Liberals reject the practice whereby the middle class who contribute most, are disproportionately taxed and receive the least in terms of service provision and credit. Liberals reject the imposition of indirect taxes on essential services whether it applies to schools, health services or access to justice. Liberals believe that it is the duty of every government to ensure that the finances of the state are healthy and in credit; governments who run their affairs in an efficient and effective manner should never have to borrow for current expenditure.
