Last edited by L.O. Dublin S.C.; 14th November 2008 at 12:19 AM.
"Sea! Is féidir linne freisin!" Eamon Gilmore
"We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard." John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
The Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: from -4.38 to -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: from -4.05 to -3.74
Sorry to see them go.
I think they lost their way in the end and became to close to FF rather than maintaining their original ideals.
Brother of Esther Uzell. She ran in Dublin South East GE against SF based on their failure to act on thedeath of her brother. THere is one. And simply look up North to the punishment beatings, surge in guns down south and involvement of former IRA in criminality down south and up North.
As I said in another thread McDowell stood up in the Dail and stated categorically that the murderer of Esther's brother had never been a member of Sinn Fein or of the IRA. He prefaced his point by saying that he is the IRAs greatest adversary. The media would have us believe that he was. Who do you believe? The media, or is McDowell a liar?
A P.ie moderator stated this on June 25th 2010: P.ie tolerates very broad free speech, and thus allows sectarian bigotry etc
Still waiting for an Irish Liberal Party
~ Anthony Crosland"We do not want to enter the age of abundance, only to find we have lost the values which must teach us how to enjoy it"
It is more likely that 91% of the members knew the party was finished. I did not go because I just did'nt have the balls to vote the party closed.
I would guess there were many of the membership were like me; just could'nt do the final deed and left it to others to do.
I'm not proud of it but I understand it.
I hope that in two or three months when all the hoohaa has died down, we will have a proper sending off and celebration of the partys time in existance.
I would like to see it end up with a night of celebration of acheivements.
Thank god the PDs are gone from the political landscape. They were never anything more than a dangerous right wing influence on irish politics. They had a ridiculously disproportionate input into the two governments between 1997 and 2007. Fianna Fail were quite happy to take on board the neo-Thatcherite policies of Harney and Mc Dowell and it is those policies of rampant capitalism that have ultimately led us into the current recession. Not surprisingly, now that the "greed is good" culture has finally brought us to the brink of doom, the PDs, like all rats, desert the sinking ship. Perhaps, if Michael Mc Dowell had spent more time concentrating on his party, and indeed his own job, and less time running a sabotage campaign against sinn fein, he and the PDs might still have a political future.