The Labour Civil Unions Bill????

[pjb07]

Who will support this landmark bill??
What are the party stances??
Which Private Member brought it forward??
When will it be voted upon??

[Respvblica]

Who will support this landmark bill??
What are the party stances??
Which Private Member brought it forward??
When will it be voted upon??

Just read Fintan O'Tooles clumn in teh IT today. Says McDowell has blown the last of its assets(liberlaism) and has become more FF than FF itself.
"FF and PD TDs can go to the doorsteps, tell gay people that they support their right to equality and tell social conservatives that they sunk an attempt to recognise gay partnerships. Among those who voted for this contemptible manoeuvre were Mary Harney, Liz O'Donnell, Michael McDowell and Fiona O'Malley. Charlie Haughey would be proud of them."

I actually feel sorry for posters here like Future Taoiseach whose loyalty to the FF-PD cause has been unwavering(some would say logic defying) and then McDowell does this.

[rockofcashel]

Who will support this landmark bill??
What are the party stances??
Which Private Member brought it forward??
When will it be voted upon??

Just read Fintan O'Tooles clumn in teh IT today. Says McDowell has blown the last of its assets(liberlaism) and has become more FF than FF itself.
"FF and PD TDs can go to the doorsteps, tell gay people that they support their right to equality and tell social conservatives that they sunk an attempt to recognise gay partnerships. Among those who voted for this contemptible manoeuvre were Mary Harney, Liz O'Donnell, Michael McDowell and Fiona O'Malley. Charlie Haughey would be proud of them."

I actually feel sorry for posters here like Future Taoiseach whose loyalty to the FF-PD cause has been unwavering(some would say logic defying) and then McDowell does this.

Aye, buried by the PD's ..

The bastions of Irish Liberalism

[TheBear]

I actually feel sorry for posters here like Future Taoiseach whose loyalty to the FF-PD cause has been unwavering(some would say logic defying) and then McDowell does this.

I don't. Before he unwaveringly supported the PDs, he unwaveringly supported Labour. Before that was FF, before that was whoever else fitted his ideas on immigration at the time...

[Respvblica]

I actually feel sorry for posters here like Future Taoiseach whose loyalty to the FF-PD cause has been unwavering(some would say logic defying) and then McDowell does this.

I don't. Before he unwaveringly supported the PDs, he unwaveringly supported Labour. Before that was FF, before that was whoever else fitted his ideas on immigration at the time...

Really ...well I suppose life is a journey. Where will his travels take him next I wonder?

[TheBear]

I actually feel sorry for posters here like Future Taoiseach whose loyalty to the FF-PD cause has been unwavering(some would say logic defying) and then McDowell does this.

I don't. Before he unwaveringly supported the PDs, he unwaveringly supported Labour. Before that was FF, before that was whoever else fitted his ideas on immigration at the time...

Really ...well I suppose life is a journey. Where will his travels take him next I wonder?

Boards.ie, with any luck... :P

[ff]

the Labour's Bill wasnt equality so in my view Im glad it was rejected.

[krayZpaving]

Equality isn't possible under our Constitution, unfortunately. This was the next best thing until we can change the Constitution.

[TheBear]

the Labour's Bill wasnt equality so in my view Im glad it was rejected.

Thanks for your input. Would you care to elaborate? Would you tend to reject the idea that increased freedoms and rights are better than no freedom or rights, on the premise that they're not as good as full equality? If so, how would you back up that contention?

[jerryp]

Only when I read F O' T's article did I realise the import of what happened in the Dáil last week. Remember the slogan " Be radical or redundant " ?
Time those rightwingers got their P45's.