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    antiestablishmentarian antiestablishmentarian is offline
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    How can we stop politicians lying to get into power?

    This and previous governments have used spin, propoganda, lies and fearmongering to manipulate the electorate and get themselves voted into power. Anyone with a brain will remember Leo Varadkar's 'not another red cent to failed banks' spiel and Gilmore's 'Labour's way or Frankfurt's way' speeches. Of course Fianna Fáil lied and too numerous times and got elected for it, so the question remains, how can politicians and their lackeys like the party hacks who troll this and similar forums be prevented from using dishonest methods to get into power?

    There is one method that could be used to keep them on the straight and narrow: fear. A bill which introduced the concept of lying to be elected to political office as electoral fraud, be it to a county council or the Oireachtas, could do the trick. Those who are elected to public office and,like the current and previous government, implement policies the opposite of those they were elected to carry out, should face a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years, with no parole eligibilty for 12 years and their civil rights, citizenship and passport stripped from them upon release.
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    A recall law?
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    Widespread gun ownership and organised militias?

    Apart from that I don't see a way.

    Not that I'm into that mindset particularly, but I do sometimes think we'd have better politicians if they feared being lined up against a wall.
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    weed out those in our population who lie, regularly......

    problem is tho.....that leaves less than 20%

    we're a morally bankrupt nation of liars......simple as
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    We can't stop them lying but we can choose not to believe them.

    The people who do most lying in politics I find is the electorate lying to itself before, during and most especially after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiestablishmentarian View Post
    This and previous governments have used spin, propoganda, lies and fearmongering to manipulate the electorate and get themselves voted into power. Anyone with a brain will remember Leo Varadkar's 'not another red cent to failed banks' spiel and Gilmore's 'Labour's way or Frankfurt's way' speeches. Of course Fianna Fáil lied and too numerous times and got elected for it, so the question remains, how can politicians and their lackeys like the party hacks who troll this and similar forums be prevented from using dishonest methods to get into power?

    There is one method that could be used to keep them on the straight and narrow: fear. A bill which introduced the concept of lying to be elected to political office as electoral fraud, be it to a county council or the Oireachtas, could do the trick. Those who are elected to public office and,like the current and previous government, implement policies the opposite of those they were elected to carry out, should face a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years, with no parole eligibilty for 12 years and their civil rights, citizenship and passport stripped from them upon release.
    Do you really think that such a bill would have any chance of passing? I think the only way would be for the constitution to be changed to allow for the people (which are sovereign in this country) to call for a referendum on matters when a certain threshold is reached. Say 100,000 signatures to a certain petition.
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    Just don't believe them - anybody with a functioning brain should have known that the present lot were never going to do anything other than continue the policies of the last lot. It's not usually all that difficult to figure out their true intentions and if we're too thick or lazy to make the small effort to do that, then we deserve what we get.
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    Enda Kenny hears your pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    Do you really think that such a bill would have any chance of passing? I think the only way would be for the constitution to be changed to allow for the people (which are sovereign in this country) to call for a referendum on matters when a certain threshold is reached. Say 100,000 signatures to a certain petition.
    Politicians don't lie, but once they're in office they get access to 'all the facts.' This is when they tell you that they can't fulfill the promises they made.

    Therefore they never lied.
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