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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBeth View Post
    My point is all 3 main parties say the exact same crap. Why would people support a less competent version of them?
    True but we know from empirical evidence that the 3 main parties have failed to deliver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plebian View Post
    A more Americanised style of Pds. One of them started a thread promoting the new party on lefty world. org and got savaged, it wasn't a pretty sight, they didn't give the guy a chance.
    One of the first things of their manifesto is to say ideology is irrelevant and then goes on to preach a bunch of right wing ideology. So yeah it's not a suprise.
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    The time is ripe for a new political party in Ireland to offer a credible alternative.

    It must not be lead by a former or present politician otherwise they are going the PD route.

    We don't want this crap below again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious

    True but we know from empirical evidence that the 3 main parties have failed to deliver.
    What's that saying about ignoring history and repeating it?

    Maybe, just maybe the model the main parties, (and by extension this new group) espouse doesn't work in the longer term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j26 View Post
    What's that saying about ignoring history and repeating it?

    Maybe, just maybe the model the main parties, (and by extension this new group) espouse doesn't work in the longer term.
    But is it just an easy quip to say they are all teachers (which the government are not all) and therefore should not be in government. This is a democracy afterall. The electoral system is just as to blame for the politicans we get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious

    But is it just an easy quip to say they are all teachers (which the government are not all) and therefore should not be in government. This is a democracy afterall. The electoral system is just as to blame for the politicans we get.
    No, I'm saying this centre right shyte is not working, and we don't need a fourth party in that space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post

    a national school teacher
    change you were hinting at ?

    a european aparachick
    and a few nerds good on the comp
    Typical hurler on the ditch statement. The relentless knocking of others efforts while producing nothing oneself is one of the worst of Irish characteristics.
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    like the defence stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBeth View Post
    One of the first things of their manifesto is to say ideology is irrelevant and then goes on to preach a bunch of right wing ideology. So yeah it's not a suprise.
    The memory of Mary Harney will ensure any new Neo-liberal party will be stillborn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j26 View Post
    No, I'm saying this centre right shyte is not working, and we don't need a fourth party in that space.
    Being useless, detached, cossetted, incompetent buffoons is what we need less of, that's been far more prevalent a reason we are where we are than any "centre right shyte"
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