DCC bin collection highlights the madness at the heart of the CPA

[brughahaha]

DCC has handed its bin collection to a private contractor , as a result 110 (the figure i heard but open to contradiction ) Bin men are to be redeployed. (plus the possible reduction in defunct administration staff) In any private sector company , these jobs would be gone , but No this is the Irish PS, so Household levy's and Fire Brigade call out charges are to be introduced to be frittered away on employees whose role no longer exists

Just to be clear , I would prefer if DCC continued to collect my bins and have no desire to see these people lose their jobs, Im just proposing that DCC and the Unions might have managed to maintain services within the council if Jobs had actually been at stake.

But no DCC and its incompetent and overpaid management in cahoots with the unions are able to transfer services whilst merrily redeploying unnecessary staff and hand the bill to the taxpayer ....

So now we pay a private contractor to collect our bins while paying a household charge to maintain unneeded bin collectors on the DCC payroll .....what a joke

[Phil Maker]

yep, the 'bin-men' now report to a rubber room in the bunker, once they turn up, they are fed 3 square meals and paid to sit around.

Whats the daily cost for this?

[loner]

This is unbelievable--Ministers are telling us that they are striving with might and main to reduce the Public Service and so reduce the PS pay bill--what kind of a deal was struck by City Hall that allows them to retain all the staff and ancillary staff working in the waste collection area--where are they going to be redeployed and what justification exists for such deployment--There seems to be a need for a proper evaluation of City Hall--we have had George Redmond--who knows if there was more than one George Redmond--we have had the purchase of appartmens that are a fire trap--we have charges for fire call outs that could put lives in danger and we have city councillors junketting at taxpayers expense--when are we goin to have an enquiry along the lines of the Board Snip to ascertain if the current operation is fit for purpose.

[greengoose2]

DCC has handed its bin collection to a private contractor , as a result 110 (the figure i heard but open to contradiction ) Bin men are to be redeployed. (plus the possible reduction in defunct administration staff) In any private sector company , these jobs would be gone , but No this is the Irish PS, so Household levy's and Fire Brigade call out charges are to be introduced to be frittered away on employees whose role no longer exists

Just to be clear , I would prefer if DCC continued to collect my bins and have no desire to see these people lose their jobs, Im just proposing that DCC and the Unions might have managed to maintain services within the council if Jobs had actually been at stake.

But no DCC and its incompetent and overpaid management in cahoots with the unions are able to transfer services whilst merrily redeploying unnecessary staff and hand the bill to the taxpayer ....

So now we pay a private contractor to collect our bins while paying a household charge to maintain unneeded bin collectors on the DCC payroll .....what a joke

Here's the letter I received.

A few points:

1. Annual service Charge to be paid up front
2. Charge to be maintained for 2012
3. Lift fees to be maintained for an initial period of 6 months

Do we get a new bin or will we have the DSC logo rubbed in our faces every time we use the bin?

So that begs the question of the Household Charhe! What does that pay for? We will be getting water meters apparently.

[Expose the lot of them]

DCC or what passes for management in that organisation sold the bin collection to Grayhound for €4 million. This will result in 100+ DCC employees being "redeployed". I spoke to my binmen last Tuesday, their last collection day on my road, as of then they had no idea where or how they would be redeployed. These men have provided an excellent service for many years, a number of them have 20+ years of service.

Grayhound should have commenced collection on my road today, we are one of the roads that use plastic sacks and pay for bin tags as needed. As I write at 19.06 the plastic bags are still on the street, when DCC did the job they were collected before 10am each Tuesday.

I have yet to receive any communication from either DCC or Grayhound. When DCC sold the collection I would hope that there were conditions attached, surely tiimely collections would have been part of the agreement - so in the first week Grayhound is already in breach of the contract - not the DCC managment give a toss.

As we paid by tag we did not register with DCC and did not have a standing charge, our green bins were collected free of charge. Based on the letter from Grayhound posted by Greengoose2 it seems that in order to continue to have our free green bin collection we will have to pay a standing charge of €100.

Tonight when the cats and urban foxes have torn the plastic bags apart, it will not be Grayhound which will clean up the mess, this will fall to the DCC sanitation department. Take in the sacks you say - what happens if Grayhound decided to collect late tonight or before we are up tomorrow.

So much for improved service - typical of the idiots whose mantra is public is bad private is good, there are many areas of the public sector that could be better run by the private sector and perhaps bin collection is one. However, this rush to sell the bin collection by DCC is a badly concieved revenue collection scam by DCC management. The DCC binmen are not on golden salaries therefore this was not the reason the collection was loss making, would it have been impossible to rationalise the collection and retain it within DCC? No it would not but such a rationalisation would bring into the clear light of day the incompetence of managment in DCC, who are in receipt of outrageous salaries.

[bluefirelog]

Grayhound should have commenced collection on my road today, we are one of the roads that use plastic sacks and pay for bin tags as needed. As I write at 19.06 the plastic bags are still on the street, when DCC did the job they were collected before 10am each Tuesday.

I have yet to receive any communication from either DCC or Grayhound.

Greyhound have introduced a new timetable. They will provide it to you with a letter. Well that's what happened us last week, we got a letter Thursday. Our bin collection (new day) was this Monday. I registered immediately as bin full since Christmas and they were around Monday morning early and collected it.

As far as I would guess, the €100 (I got the same letter as above) is standing charge for those that have wheelie bins. Not for someone in a tag area. We already paid this €100, but in 4 installments, billed every quarter. The difference now is needing to pay in full upfront within a month. In your case, you can continue to use your leftover DCC bin tags until March, then you have to change over to the new ones. You should email Greyhound with your address and ask what day the next collections for your area are.

It would be interesting to know how DCC are going to deploy the binmen alright.

[bob3367]

Apparently they, the DCC lads, are off somewhere on a bus either tomorrow or Thursday they don't know where they are going.

[zippo222]

DCC or what passes for management in that organisation sold the bin collection to Grayhound for €4 million. This will result in 100+ DCC employees being "redeployed". I spoke to my binmen last Tuesday, their last collection day on my road, as of then they had no idea where or how they would be redeployed. These men have provided an excellent service for many years, a number of them have 20+ years of service. .

Three words, water meter installation.

[gijoe]

Plus they were getting an extra €60 a week for working in the 'cleansing' department and that they will have to be given under the CPA of 1.5 years of this payment to buy it out i.e. they are getting compensated for a payment that they no longer qualify for!

A question that has not arose yet is what happens in the event of a strike at the Greyhound company? There will no capacity for the local authority to react to a build up of rubbish in the event of a strike.

[loner]

Dublins citizens have been shortchanged by City Hall--no notice was given of the sale of the bin rounds and the new owners werethrust upon us at the last minute--this is a denial of citizens rights. We were not told in a letter recieved on 16 January that there were other companies engaged in refuse collection and the last minute notice effectively denied us the right to make alternative arrangements. There must be many estates around the city where if given time residents could have used their residents associations to suss out other firms who might be interested in carrying out bin collections--this type of highhanded action by City Hall should be roundly condemned.