DCC bin collection highlights the madness at the heart of the CPA

[cricket]

I don't know, but I read that they couldn't break even (maybe because of all the waivers?), so that's why they had to let it go...

Joe Higgins and his anti bin charge campaign played right into the hands of the privatisers.

[Will Yam]

Greyhound will only continue with the service if they make a profit - therefore one can only agree with not continuing to support loss making non-transparent DCC activities.

The fact that the employees were not transferred to Greyhound gives an idea of the employees Ts & Cs

Now - when is that incinerator being fired up?

Do you believe for one second that Greyhound would take them on?

[hammer]

DCC has handed its bin collection to a private contractor , as a result 110 (the figure i heard but open to contradiction ) Bin men are to be redeployed. (plus the possible reduction in defunct administration staff) In any private sector company , these jobs would be gone , but No this is the Irish PS, so Household levy's and Fire Brigade call out charges are to be introduced to be frittered away on employees whose role no longer exists

Just to be clear , I would prefer if DCC continued to collect my bins and have no desire to see these people lose their jobs, Im just proposing that DCC and the Unions might have managed to maintain services within the council if Jobs had actually been at stake.

But no DCC and its incompetent and overpaid management in cahoots with the unions are able to transfer services whilst merrily redeploying unnecessary staff and hand the bill to the taxpayer ....

So now we pay a private contractor to collect our bins while paying a household charge to maintain unneeded bin collectors on the DCC payroll .....what a joke

You may be missing an important point. The private company can make a profit from this service. The DCC cant.

Staff may be overpaid compared to private sector etc..............

[Will Yam]

You may be missing an important point. The private company can make a profit from this service. The DCC cant.

Staff may be overpaid compared to private sector etc..............

In the overall scheme of things does it really matter?

These clowns have basically taken work from one group of people, given it to another, but we continue to pay both groups!!

What a bunch of tossers.

[Blucher]

The "Public Service" will be protected at all cost.

Make no mistake.

[tokkie]

The "Public Service" will be protected at all cost.

Make no mistake.

it's great isn't it.

[asset test]

The refuse services were privatised in SDCC last year and sold to Greyhound. 60 euro annual charge, plus a lift charge (Green bin free), plus a per kilo charge. You'd need to be Einstein to figure it out.

Not as much hue and cry about it as there is the City.... But it was always much cheaper for refuse collection in the DCC. Join the real world folks.

The waivers were a problem budget wise I suppose. But really, I always believed that waiver people should be given the standing charge free, but should pay for the bin like the rest of us. It might encourage recycling or at least separation of rubbish and less throwing any old thing in the bin because it's free.

Although I'm not sure about recycling either now that the brown and black bins are going to be collected on the same day from now on. I doubt the bin truck has a different compartment for segretating the stuff in either bin. So you can see why I see all this organic waste stuff as being a bit of a joke.

[nonpartyboy]

DCC has handed its bin collection to a private contractor , as a result 110 (the figure i heard but open to contradiction ) Bin men are to be redeployed. (plus the possible reduction in defunct administration staff) In any private sector company , these jobs would be gone , but No this is the Irish PS, so Household levy's and Fire Brigade call out charges are to be introduced to be frittered away on employees whose role no longer exists

Just to be clear , I would prefer if DCC continued to collect my bins and have no desire to see these people lose their jobs, Im just proposing that DCC and the Unions might have managed to maintain services within the council if Jobs had actually been at stake.

But no DCC and its incompetent and overpaid management in cahoots with the unions are able to transfer services whilst merrily redeploying unnecessary staff and hand the bill to the taxpayer ....

So now we pay a private contractor to collect our bins while paying a household charge to maintain unneeded bin collectors on the DCC payroll .....what a joke

Public/Civil/Local authority staff have a job for life, get over it. I remember seeing a job for a carpenter in Dublin city council in 2002 paying something around 225 plus 50 for some allowance per week, at the time carpenters were pulling 600 - 900 per week on sites depending on what you were doing. According to the radio today, all the dcc bin collectors have been redeployed, the day these people don't get paid is the day this state runs out of money.

[Expose the lot of them]

Do you believe for one second that Greyhound would take them on?

Had it be a normal transfer of contract, the TUPE legislation would apply - in other words the new company would be obliged to take the staff.

In my experience the DCC binmen and the guys who clean the streets do a very good job, in all weathers, the same cannot be said for Grayhound. During the heavy snow last year we did not have a green bin collection (Grayhound) from the end of November to mid January. During that time, when the DCC binmen came on foot with the small trucks (the big ones could not get up the hill to our road) and on foot and collected the plastic sacks. However, working hard and doing a good job is not rewarded in DCC. These are low paid workers who are productive and made a contribution to life in the city, that some would begrudge them the allowance they get for handling filth is pathetic and mean spirited.

[Expose the lot of them]

Greyhound have introduced a new timetable. They will provide it to you with a letter. Well that's what happened us last week, we got a letter Thursday. Our bin collection (new day) was this Monday. I registered immediately as bin full since Christmas and they were around Monday morning early and collected it.

As far as I would guess, the €100 (I got the same letter as above) is standing charge for those that have wheelie bins. Not for someone in a tag area. We already paid this €100, but in 4 installments, billed every quarter. The difference now is needing to pay in full upfront within a month. In your case, you can continue to use your leftover DCC bin tags until March, then you have to change over to the new ones. You should email Greyhound with your address and ask what day the next collections for your area are.

It would be interesting to know how DCC are going to deploy the binmen alright.

It is a pity they did not see fit to notify those who were expecting their normal collection today - call that efficient?