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Thread: DCC bin collection highlights the madness at the heart of the CPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by d7bohs View Post
    Grangegorman - off the NCR and - oh the irony! - about 100m from the DCC waste depot from whence the bin lorries used to emerge at 6am on a Monday morning and we were first.... dear days beyond recall.

    Like you, we're not listed on the Greyhound site, nor have they communicated with us in any way.

    I'll be on to Tierney.
    Multiple emails later our bags were collected shortly after 9 this morning. I am writing to Tiereny, again, it is high time this guy was removed from his post and his activities investigated. This is the same person who has blown €82 million on the incinerator project, not a sod turned nor a brick laid, approximately €30 million was spent on PR!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Between the Lines View Post
    Cllr Larry O' Toole (SF) and Cllr Brian MacDowell (North Central) recently talked about the Greyhound situation on Near FM.

    You can listen to it on the Near FM website. I'm a newbie, so I can't post links. It's an insight into how helpless the Councillors were to the take over.
    I attended the special meeting of the Council and Tierney's arrogance was breathtaking. However, we must not forget that it was FF who transferred powers from the elected representatives to the executive. At that meeting questions whether the sale of the service actual fell within Tierney's remit as it was a "disposal" and disposal remain within the remit of the elected representatives. I gather the law agent has failed to provide a written opinion for the elected representatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d7bohs View Post
    Grangegorman - off the NCR and - oh the irony! - about 100m from the DCC waste depot from whence the bin lorries used to emerge at 6am on a Monday morning and we were first.... dear days beyond recall.

    Like you, we're not listed on the Greyhound site, nor have they communicated with us in any way.

    I'll be on to Tierney.
    Have you had any communication / collection yet?

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    Its now emerged that the City Council paid the grand sum of €310,000 to advisor's Ernst & Young for consultancy services on the privatization of its waste collection and that's despite DCC having previously stated that they paid €250,000.

    We paid €310,000 to advisors on the city's bin collection mess - News, Frontpage - Herald.ie

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    Quote Originally Posted by damus View Post
    Its now emerged that the City Council paid the grand sum of €310,000 to advisor's Ernst & Young for consultancy services on the privatization of its waste collection and that's despite DCC having previously stated that they paid €250,000.

    We paid €310,000 to advisors on the city's bin collection mess - News, Frontpage - Herald.ie
    So they forgot about the VAT, I wonder what else they have forgotten.

    What I want to see now is which way the money went, did Greyhound pay DCC or as has been strongly rumoured did DCC pay Greyhound?
    What percentage of the arrears collected by Greyhound will be repaid to DCC? Full details of the service level agreement(s)
    What sanctions will be imposed on Greyhound for failure to meet the conditions of the contract?
    What happens if/when Greyhound wish to withdraw from the service? Will it revert to DCC or will Greyhound be permitted to subcontract it out / sell it on?
    What arrangments are in place for DCC to recoup from Greyhound the cost of cleaning up the mess made by rubbish caused by bins remaining uncollected?
    What arrangements are in place for DCC to recoup from Greyhound other costs related to Greyhound's failure to collect bins per the contracted agreement, rats, mice, etc.

    These are the questions that Tierney has refused to answer on the grounds that this is "commercially sensistive" information.

    We have not seen the end of this debacle yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expose the lot of them View Post
    So they forgot about the VAT, I wonder what else they have forgotten.

    What I want to see now is which way the money went, did Greyhound pay DCC or as has been strongly rumoured did DCC pay Greyhound?
    What percentage of the arrears collected by Greyhound will be repaid to DCC? Full details of the service level agreement(s)
    What sanctions will be imposed on Greyhound for failure to meet the conditions of the contract?
    What happens if/when Greyhound wish to withdraw from the service? Will it revert to DCC or will Greyhound be permitted to subcontract it out / sell it on?
    What arrangments are in place for DCC to recoup from Greyhound the cost of cleaning up the mess made by rubbish caused by bins remaining uncollected?
    What arrangements are in place for DCC to recoup from Greyhound other costs related to Greyhound's failure to collect bins per the contracted agreement, rats, mice, etc.

    These are the questions that Tierney has refused to answer on the grounds that this is "commercially sensistive" information.

    We have not seen the end of this debacle yet.
    IMO the PAC should be looking at this contract.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by damus View Post
    IMO the PAC should be looking at this contract.....
    I believe that this "disposal" and Tierney's other Ceausescu like projects and activities should be forensically examined, we know about the bins and the incinerator and I suspect that these are not the only questionable activities that Tierney is responsible for.

    I would also be very interested to hear whether the Law Agent was purusuaded to give an opinion of the legality of the transfer of the bin collection to Greyhound? Tierney justified the lack of a tendering process on the basis this is not a tender but a "disposal", when the ffers transferred powers from the elected representatives to the Executive, disposals remained within the remit of the elected representatives.

    I would also be very interested to see how Tierney arrived at the figure of several million they claimed that DCC would lose the bin collection was retained. It would certainly not be down to the cost of wages or lorries, I would how much administrative waste was included? I have also heard stories of expensive equipment being purchased and then left to rot.

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    The madness continues, I have just posted the following on another Greyhound thread

    The debacle continues apace, today is my green bin collection day, the bins were left out before 6am as instructed by Greyhound, at approximately 8am the Greyhound crew attached labels to all the green bins advising that they would not be lifted as they did not have green bin ID tags. I applied for a green bin ID tag on February 15th and received an email confirming receipt of the email and advising that the request would be processed. To date I have not received the ID tag, on the road I live on we use plastic sacks for domestic waste, today is also the waste collection day, I wonder will these sacks be left uncollected for days, again.

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