Vermont Cow Power Electricity

[cyberianpan]

Central Vermont Public Service


CVPS Cow Power™ - Providing renewable energy one cow at a time.

CVPS Cow Power™ links farms, renewables and customers

Central Vermont Public Service customers who want to support renewable energy and Vermont dairy farms have a new energy choice – CVPS Cow Power™. The Vermont Public Service Board has approved CVPS Cow Power™, which is intended to help promote development and reliance on renewable energy in Vermont by creating a market for energy generated by burning methane from cow manure.

It seems like a good idea, reduce the methane & get electricity. Wonder will some greens demand that only "organic" cows are used ?

cYp

[Jippo]

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[green]

Wonder will some greens demand that only "organic" cows are used ?

cYp

Unlikely, as I can't see how that would make a difference to either the safety or effectiveness of the fuel.

[cyberianpan]

Wonder will some greens demand that only "organic" cows are used ?

cYp

Unlikely, as I can't see how that would make a difference to either the safety or effectiveness of the fuel.

How about genetically modified cows intended well to produce sh*tloads of sh*t ?


cYp

[saoirse 06]

How about genetically modified cows intended well to produce sh*tloads of sh*t ?

You mean like Mary Harney? :wink:

[PinkoLeftie]

Wonder will some greens demand that only "organic" cows are used ?

Unlikely, as I can't see how that would make a difference to either the safety or effectiveness of the fuel.

But it would be better for the environment.. which I thought was the main purpose of organic food? The fact that it is probably safer to eat is just a secondary benefit, no?

[green]

Wonder will some greens demand that only "organic" cows are used ?

Unlikely, as I can't see how that would make a difference to either the safety or effectiveness of the fuel.

But it would be better for the environment.. which I thought was the main purpose of organic food? The fact that it is probably safer to eat is just a secondary benefit, no?

Its health benefit is the major selling point of organic produce, though. Living as we do in a market economy, the only way consumers will pay more for a product is if it has a real or perceived advantage over an alternative: people perceive that organic food is healthier than non-organic food, but would this crossover into cow************************? What health (or even environmental) benefits would entice someone to shell out more for it?

The only real reason to buy organic manure that I can see is in order to stimulate further organic farming, thereby lowering the price of healthier organic food. However, this would hardly correlate to using (or "demanding") only organically-raised cow manure, so I really don't think cyberianpan is on to a strong point here.

[cyberianpan]

Its health benefit is the major selling point of organic produce, though. Living as we do in a market economy, the only way consumers will pay more for a product is if it has a real or perceived advantage over an alternative: people perceive that organic food is healthier than non-organic food, but would this crossover into cow************************? What health (or even environmental) benefits would entice someone to shell out more for it?

The only real reason to buy organic manure that I can see is in order to stimulate further organic farming, thereby lowering the price of healthier organic food. However, this would hardly correlate to using (or "demanding") only organically-raised cow manure, so I really don't think cyberianpan is on to a strong point here.

I'd understood organic farming as best to be compared to intensive farming. With it's lower use of artificial fertilisers, zero use of pesticides & generally less concrete it allows for a more "natural" countryside.

Anyhow that aside what about the proposed GMO über flatulent cows ?

cYp

[PinkoLeftie]

Its health benefit is the major selling point of organic produce, though.

Yes, but the real benefit, for a serious environmentalist is the environmental one, IMO.

Living as we do in a market economy, the only way consumers will pay more for a product is if it has a real or perceived advantage over an alternative: people perceive that organic food is healthier than non-organic food, but would this crossover into cow************************? What health (or even environmental) benefits would entice someone to shell out more for it?

Less pollution of groundwater, less oil used, etc, in the production of the manure.

[green]

Its health benefit is the major selling point of organic produce, though. Living as we do in a market economy, the only way consumers will pay more for a product is if it has a real or perceived advantage over an alternative: people perceive that organic food is healthier than non-organic food, but would this crossover into cow************************? What health (or even environmental) benefits would entice someone to shell out more for it?

The only real reason to buy organic manure that I can see is in order to stimulate further organic farming, thereby lowering the price of healthier organic food. However, this would hardly correlate to using (or "demanding") only organically-raised cow manure, so I really don't think cyberianpan is on to a strong point here.

I'd understood organic farming as best to be compared to intensive farming. With it's lower use of artificial fertilisers, zero use of pesticides & generally less concrete it allows for a more "natural" countryside.

Absolutely, but I was focusing more on your belief would "demand" that only organically-raised cows be used in this project. My point (which I forgot to specify) was intended to be that this was unlikely, since Greens don't even "demand" that only organically-raised cows be bred, slaughtered or eaten. We'd prefer an approach to agriculture focused solely on organic means, but I don't know of any Green, in any country, who would demand such a thing.

Anyhow that aside what about the proposed GMO über flatulent cows ?

I heard that such a feed was being developed a few months ago but I'm not really aware of the specifics.