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    Disillusioned democrat Disillusioned democrat is online now
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    Is our very weak government a risk in planning for Brexit?

    Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.

    With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.

    Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.

    Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
    Daft suggestion, most TDs have no interest in serving in govt, we got what we voted for. Possibly, by the time we have the next election we may know what the Brits want from Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.

    With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.

    Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.

    Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
    Should we not be activrly planning new transport routes now which bypass the uk for eu goods ?
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    Met Eireann now tweeting weather maps that look like Brexit proposals.

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    Please zoo this nonsenses. Almost every commentator has said the government has done an excellent job. There really is nothing more they can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wexfordman View Post
    Should we not be activrly planning new transport routes now which bypass the uk for eu goods ?
    We should be planning a significant number of initiatives to reduce the impact and/or maximise the opportunity, but we're not and even if we were, this government doesn't seem to have the focus or numbers to get things done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Few, if any, commentators would argue that our current government is very, very weak.

    With FF as its crutch and a few rag tag independents to make up the numbers in the Dail and the cabinet, the current FG government are probably the weakest we've had in decades (bar the dying days of the Cowen farce). A far cry from the 2011 FG government that could have made real reforms happen if they had been bothered.

    Any government that has Zappone as a minister is deadman walking as far as many are concerned.

    Anyway - with Brexit looming - potentially the biggest challenge we face economically and politically, are we running a huge risk having such a weak government in place and should we be actually looking for something more like a "war cabinet" and national government for the next few years as we plan and execute around the transition of our biggest trading partner and probably only real friend in Europe out of the EU?
    Our only real friend! What planet are you on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    Please zoo this nonsenses. Almost every commentator has said the government has done an excellent job. There really is nothing more they can do.
    REALLY????

    Varadkar is betting the farm on a soft border based on a rational withdrawal by Britian and a bit of a climb down by May, but that's because it suits him because there's no need to act and, sure, if it goes pear shaped it's not his fault - nothing ever is.

    The Dutch are currently recruiting 5000 new customs officials...we're doing NOTHING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    REALLY????

    Varadkar is betting the farm on a soft border based on a rational withdrawal by Britian and a bit of a climb down by May, but that's because it suits him because there's no need to act and, sure, if it goes pear shaped it's not his fault - nothing ever is.

    The Dutch are currently recruiting 5000 new customs officials...we're doing NOTHING.
    The government got the border issue up front and centre in negotiations with the EU and the UK. It was widely considered a diplomatic triumph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    REALLY????

    Varadkar is betting the farm on a soft border based on a rational withdrawal by Britian and a bit of a climb down by May, but that's because it suits him because there's no need to act and, sure, if it goes pear shaped it's not his fault - nothing ever is.

    The Dutch are currently recruiting 5000 new customs officials...we're doing NOTHING.
    The EU and the UK agreed to it last Dec.

    It will be fun to see all the clowns blame the Irish government when the EU chicken out of what was agreed.
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