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    Should Northern Ireland MP's be given Dáil speaking rights?

    Should Northern MP's be given Dáil speaking rights?

    Cavan-Monaghan TD Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin this afternoon said speaking rights on the floor of the Dáil was recommended by an all party Oireachtas committee as far back as 2003. MP's have to date only been given access to the Oireachtas Committee on the Good Friday Agreement. Former Belfast Lord Mayor Niall O Donnghaile, now a senator, argued it would make more sense than calls from Irish parties, including Fine Gael, for Sinn Fein to give up abstentionism.

    Should the Dáíl doors be opened up to those elected in Ulster, bearing in mind that when the Dáíl first sat in 1919 it do so with members elected from the 32 counties?

    These Sinn Féin MPs were at Leinster House today to demand speaking time
    Sinn Fein calls for MPs' speaking rights in the Dail - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/45014
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    Should Northern MP's be given Dáil speaking rights?

    Cavan-Monaghan TD Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin this afternoon said speaking rights on the floor of the Dáil was recommended by an all party Oireachtas committee as far back as 2003. MP's have to date only been given access to the Oireachtas Committee on the Good Friday Agreement. Former Belfast Lord Mayor Niall O Donnghaile, now a senator, argued it would make more sense than calls from Irish parties, including Fine Gael, for Sinn Fein to give up abstentionism.

    Should the Dáíl doors be opened up to those elected in Ulster, bearing in mind that when the Dáíl first sat in 1919 it do so with members elected from the 32 counties?

    These Sinn Féin MPs were at Leinster House today to demand speaking time
    Sinn Fein calls for MPs' speaking rights in the Dail - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/45014
    Except that in 1919, partition had yet to be formalised. Best approach to accommodating the views of Northerners would be for all parties to appoint NI politicians to the Seanad - SF have Niall O'Donghaile, and FF had Edmond Haughey in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    Should Northern MP's be given Dáil speaking rights?

    Cavan-Monaghan TD Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin this afternoon said speaking rights on the floor of the Dáil was recommended by an all party Oireachtas committee as far back as 2003. MP's have to date only been given access to the Oireachtas Committee on the Good Friday Agreement. Former Belfast Lord Mayor Niall O Donnghaile, now a senator, argued it would make more sense than calls from Irish parties, including Fine Gael, for Sinn Fein to give up abstentionism.

    Should the Dáíl doors be opened up to those elected in Ulster, bearing in mind that when the Dáíl first sat in 1919 it do so with members elected from the 32 counties?

    These Sinn Féin MPs were at Leinster House today to demand speaking time
    Sinn Fein calls for MPs' speaking rights in the Dail - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/45014
    Time for some popcorn.
    The anti-SF lunatics are usually finishing their mashed up dindins in the asylum around this time!
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    How's about trying to get the speaking rights of all elected assembly members to stormont up and running first.
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    I have no problem at all with them having an input. But not sure if the dail chamber is the place for it. Would all Irish committee's on matters of relevance be a more productive structure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    Should Northern MP's be given Dáil speaking rights?

    Cavan-Monaghan TD Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin this afternoon said speaking rights on the floor of the Dáil was recommended by an all party Oireachtas committee as far back as 2003. MP's have to date only been given access to the Oireachtas Committee on the Good Friday Agreement. Former Belfast Lord Mayor Niall O Donnghaile, now a senator, argued it would make more sense than calls from Irish parties, including Fine Gael, for Sinn Fein to give up abstentionism.

    Should the Dáíl doors be opened up to those elected in Ulster, bearing in mind that when the Dáíl first sat in 1919 it do so with members elected from the 32 counties?

    These Sinn Féin MPs were at Leinster House today to demand speaking time
    Sinn Fein calls for MPs' speaking rights in the Dail - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/45014
    An utterly hair brained idea. Such a proposal would then also have to be extended to other party's in the north, the SDLP, the Alliance Party, DUP, etc. And for what exactly? For what would it achieve exactly apart from acting as a propaganda tool for some of the aforementioned political party's.

    I have not heard SF make much play of such an idea in the very recent past and today is nothing more than a convenient sideshow by SF from which the OP has been very much taken in by. A conventient distraction from the impotence of Sinn Fein's westminister absenstionist policy particularly in light of the effects of Brexit on the people of the North.
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    Pious nonsense, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were granted.

    The thoughts of Joe Brolly types coming down here to lecture us on how to run this state...��
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    Tough Paddy Tough Paddy is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyFoley View Post
    Pious nonsense, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were granted.

    The thoughts of Joe Brolly types coming down here to lecture us on how to run this state...��
    It's not meant to be overly serious. Just a convenient sideshow and distraction from the current impotent position SF find themelves in vis-a-vis that of the DUP, Westminister abstentionism and Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyFoley View Post
    Pious nonsense, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were granted.

    The thoughts of Joe Brolly types coming down here to lecture us on how to run this state...��
    The last 10 years has well and truly shown that FFG haven't one single clue as to how a state should be ran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tough Paddy View Post
    It's not meant to be overly serious. Just a convenient sideshow and distraction from the current impotent position SF find themelves in vis-a-vis that of the DUP, Westminister abstentionism and Brexit.
    Would you take an oath of allegiance to the Queen of England TP?
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