Who bloody cares about this reshuffle. Have we not done well without little O Dea for past few weeks. All he did was attend funerals, and had 6 people looking after his clinics. During the war there were only about 8 ministers. ||They have increased since them to the max allowed by the constitution. It should be cut back now to about 10. All this talk of Presidental commission is daft. Save money on them.
Originally Posted by PaddyJoe McGillycuddy
Doubt it some how..."they've" done the Nama/banking scheme bit......!!!
Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes.
Jim Carrey.
Shuffle off Tuesday ?
I'm on for that. Most of them are useless anyway. The only one I want to keep is Brian Lenihan.
The ballsy guys -
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If the Taoiseach intends to bring any new members into the cabinet, there has to be a vote in the Dáil. The Dáil is not due to assemble until Tuesday afternoon. A nomination motion would take a couple of hours. So if the President is away, unless he wants to use the Presidential Commission, which I don't think has been used since 1938 for appointing ministers (though I could be wrong), and if the President is a way all week, then the nomination would have to be either the following week or on Friday. But again the House is not scheduled to meet on Friday. Cowen's TDs would lynch him if he tried to have the House sit on Friday afternoon - TDs have meetings arranged, clinics arranged, and they would have irate voters screaming "where were you?" if they were up in the Dáil and not at the clinic when there is a queue of oul' wans waiting for him in the church hall or pub.
Of course if he doesn't want to bring anyone in, he can do a reshuffle without a vote. But that is unlikely as he is down two and a third one's health problems may require his temporary exit from government.
Constitutionally the Dáil doesn't nominate ministers. It nominates members to the cabinet. It is only by being in the cabinet (or the Government, to use the constitutional term) that one is eligible to be appointed to a cabinet ministry. He can reshuffle people as all as he wants, every day if he wants, between jobs. But to bring someone into cabinet to take them eligible for appointment as a minister there has to be a vote. In effect there is a three-step process.
1. The Taoiseach proposes nominees to the Government.
2. The Dáil ratifies nominees to the Government.
3. The President appoints the nominees to the Government.
While Taoisigh traditionally announce what posts they intend people to have when proposing nominees, that isn't a requirement. They could just propose a list, and only have the posts revealed when the President appoints them later.
Last edited by TommyO'Brien; 19th March 2010 at 11:46 PM.
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AND the funerals Tom...lets not forget the funerals!!
Will give the opposition a week to get their digs in......!!
So another week then....!!!
Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes.
Jim Carrey.
True, they have well and truly purged the party of the skeptics at this stage.Doubt it some how..."they've" done the Nama/banking scheme bit......!!!
It's not that long since they did the 'preferendum', the program for government and NAMA. Only a wet weekend gone..
http://www.politics.ie/green-party/9...o-late-10.html
Is SPN still around?
Don't be daft.
It was possible during the war to have only 8 because there were few jobs and a lot of roles that should have existed were dormant. Even at 15 Ireland has one of the smallest cabinets in the world. In the war it was possible to have one person deal with environment, local government, health and social welfare. Even Jesus Christ wouldn't have the ability to combine those roles these days. It was because they were combined that environmental and health policy was so absent. It was only after Health became a separate department in the late 1940s that we actually had the beginnings of proper health planning and could deal with TB. Until 1986 Health and Social Welfare could be combined. That would be physically impossible now, unless a minister could somehow work a 60 hour day.
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Funerals are in the morning. In the afternoon it is clinics. Any TD who dares to miss a clinic usually has a week of screaming irate calls to put up with for the next week, from whingers who complain "I waited for two hours but you didn't turn up. Am I not important enough for you to meet anymore? I'll never vote for you again!" bla bla bla.
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he was posting yesterday
???????.... no doubt next weekend!!...
Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes.
Jim Carrey.
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