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Thread: Ahern proposes Autumn Referendum on blasphemy.

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    Not another %&(&%/%§! neverendum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    Not another %&(&%/%§! neverendum!
    We have to have one anyway on the children's rights proposals.

    Anyway you know you love them Fantasia. Why else would you be on here? :mrgreen:
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    Best chance of removing the blasphemy legislation is if the referendum is worded such that a no vote is required. ;-)

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    Let's see:

    We can then hold the three by-elections and three referenda at the same time:

    • Blasphemy
    • Children's rights
    • Removal of references to religion


    Great news. If the other issues are not dealt with on the same day, then FF will have to explain why. That should be another few points against them.

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    Very good chance such a referendum will be defeated. I don't have strong feelings about it either way, but it would be fun to see the atheists/secularists humiliated.

    Repeal of the blasphemy law will probably be supported by all the leading political parties and all of the media. However, politicians and the media are not the most popular groups these days and large numbers may vote NO as a protest. Vote NO to give the politicians a kick in the backside will be the cry.

    Then, there is the fact that turnout will be exceptionally low, probably the lowest ever for a referendum. I wouldn't be surprised if its under 20 per cent. The silent majority simply don't give a toss about this issue. I can't imagine many people of moderate views, who work 9 to 5, being bothered to vote. I can't imagine I will. The only people who really care about it are the Catholic Right and various militant atheist/secularist groups. The former are far more numerous, far better funded and far better organised. I'm sure the Catholic Right will have large posters all over the country with quotes from the hate-crazed atheists who predominate on this and other sites and this will turn most moderates off from voting to repeal.

    Then, I'm sure that someone will make the point that the atheist/secularist groups in Ireland are equally consumed with hatred for the Muslim religion and that, if the blasphemy law is repealed, its only a matter of time before some atheist journalist in Ireland publishes a cartoon or diatribe against Mohammed and this will destroy Ireland's trade with Muslim countries and maybe even invite some kind of terrorist attack. That would be scaremongering, of course, on the part of those advocating NO, but that's how things go in referenda in Ireland, as we have seen repeatedly. Whichever side scaremongers the best, wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessiebell View Post
    Very good chance such a referendum will be defeated.
    I'm afraid you haven't a hope in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggressivesecularist View Post
    I'm afraid you haven't a hope in hell.
    I don't plan on going to hell. I'm planning on going to heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggressivesecularist View Post
    I'm afraid you haven't a hope in hell.

    Arrogance like that will ensure the referendum will be defeated.
    Or at least that a number of God-fearing counties take a stand.

    Do not forget that Mary McAleese, with a combination of nationalism and catholicism got over 60% of the effective vote in the 1997 presidential election, that Divorce would have been lost is the weather in the West had been better and last summer we saw thousands of morons convince themselve that the sun was dancing in the sky.

    Before Paddy's day became the greate drinking day, it was the commeration of St Patrick, the patron saint of the country (ask a French man who their patron saint is, only foreigners will say Joan D'Arc, he is more likely to say that France is a secular republic).
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    I'm only making a confident prediction.

    I have been known very occasionally to be right.

    If your post is anything to go by, you seem not to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessiebell View Post
    I don't plan on going to hell. I'm planning on going to heaven.
    The best laid plans of mice and men ..... and all that.

    What if the book is wrong?
    The Illuminati ...... because payback's a Bit
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