George Lee: A Courageous Dissenter

[Ceartgoleor]

Well done Mr. Lee.

My initial feeling was of shock to an Irish politician display courage, honesty and integrity. I cant ever remember seeing this from a Dáil politician.

Standards in Irish politics have sunk so low that most people accept this as part an parcel of everyday life.

Reading between the lines however, I suspect this spells bad news for the average Irish PAYE peasant. George obviously attempted to get the morons in FG to act on the Governments deplorable failure in tackling the bankers. Does anyone seriously believe he did nothing for nine months?

He decided he couldn't stand with the FG party and watch the ordinary man in the street being mugged by the FF Green government as they mortgaged our childrens future to satisfy their cronies. He now understands that FG will support this policy when or if they ever come to power.

As a former RTE hack he also knows the strict control and censorship exerted by the Government in the Dáíl and RTE outside of it over minority opposition and independent viewpoints. He simply would not have been heard if he remained an independent.

Working in the media will give him a far more effective voice. This he understands.

He has made a stand for principles and Irish politics. What's rare is beautiful!

[Lightning Rod]

George Lee has shone a light into the desultory system that is Irish politics. He has done the State some service.

+1

Leinster House is populated by non-professional partisan cliques and power circles: these "institutionalized" roles are a breeding ground for cronyism. Cronyism is the bane of any progressive democracy.

Cronyism has poisoned our democracy both economically and ethically. The Executive and Legislative Estates are clearly dysfunctional, the Houses of the Oireachtas two pointless echo-chambers housing 165 power-hungry queue-jumpers.

Nonsense. What has he told us that we don't already know?

Maybe it takes some repeating.

[Lightning Rod]

Well done Mr. Lee.

My initial feeling was of shock to an Irish politician display courage, honesty and integrity. I cant ever remember seeing this from a Dáil politician.

Standards in Irish politics have sunk so low that most people accept this as part an parcel of everyday life.

Reading between the lines however, I suspect this spells bad news for the average Irish PAYE peasant. George obviously attempted to get the morons in FG to act on the Governments deplorable failure in tackling the bankers. Does anyone seriously believe he did nothing for nine months?

He decided he couldn't stand with the FG party and watch the ordinary man in the street being mugged by the FF Green government as they mortgaged our childrens future to satisfy their cronies. He now understands that FG will support this policy when or if they ever come to power.

As a former RTE hack he also knows the strict control and censorship exerted by the Government in the Dáíl and RTE outside of it over minority opposition and independent viewpoints. He simply would not have been heard if he remained an independent.

Working in the media will give him a far more effective voice. This he understands.

He has made a stand for principles and Irish politics. What's rare is beautiful!

Eloquently put.
The panel was unanimous on Vincent Browne's show earlier that he could not return to RTE - maybe he could go to TV3?

[Edo]

Well done Mr. Lee.

My initial feeling was of shock to an Irish politician display courage, honesty and integrity. I cant ever remember seeing this from a Dáil politician.

Standards in Irish politics have sunk so low that most people accept this as part an parcel of everyday life.

Reading between the lines however, I suspect this spells bad news for the average Irish PAYE peasant. George obviously attempted to get the morons in FG to act on the Governments deplorable failure in tackling the bankers. Does anyone seriously believe he did nothing for nine months?

He decided he couldn't stand with the FG party and watch the ordinary man in the street being mugged by the FF Green government as they mortgaged our childrens future to satisfy their cronies. He now understands that FG will support this policy when or if they ever come to power.

As a former RTE hack he also knows the strict control and censorship exerted by the Government in the Dáíl and RTE outside of it over minority opposition and independent viewpoints. He simply would not have been heard if he remained an independent.

Working in the media will give him a far more effective voice. This he understands.

He has made a stand for principles and Irish politics. What's rare is beautiful!

Lovely stuff - so what has George Lee's actions today done to further the cause of the above?

Well?

He could have stayed and fought - he decided to cut,cry and run - there is no way out of this conclusion - and you dress it up like he stood his ground for something - typical "Irish" moral victory that we've had way too much of.

For all us in the various political parties who are trying to change the way our parties do business and the get instituational reform higher up the agenda without having Mr Lees celebrity status and star power- Georges actions today constitute one serious kick in the goolies for all of us!

If you want the system to change - then you better get into the system and change it - it is not going to happen from outside.

[MPB]

Lovely stuff - so what has George Lee's actions today done to further the cause of the above?

Well?

He could have stayed and fought - he decided to cut,cry and run - there is no way out of this conclusion - and you dress it up like he stood his ground for something - typical "Irish" moral victory that we've had way too much of.

For all us in the various political parties who are trying to change the way our parties do business and the get instituational reform higher up the agenda without having Mr Lees celebrity status and star power- Georges actions today constitute one serious kick in the goolies for all of us!

If you want the system to change - then you better get into the system and change it - it is not going to happen from outside.

Oh yes it is. The political system in this country is corrupt. What you are advocating is that people who want change should embrace this corrupt system.

People are sick of this system and the people within it. Most of our politicians in positions of power are there on the back of the work of their parents and grand parents.

A changing of the guard will not affect change. It should be given the opportunity and hopefully it will work but in my opinion the change we need will come without the need for an election.

[Edo]

Oh yes it is. The political system in this country is corrupt. What you are advocating is that people who want change should embrace this corrupt system.

People are sick of this system and the people within it. Most of our politicians in positions of power are there on the back of the work of their parents and grand parents.

A changing of the guard will not affect change. It should be given the opportunity and hopefully it will work but in my opinion the change we need will come without the need for an election.

Thats great - wonderful - what are you going to do about it? - apart from preaching from a height at the rest of us insomniacs here eh?

Talk is cheap

Also can you elaborate on the change bit without the need for an election - if you think it will happen within FF you may be waiting - if you think the Irish people are going to rise up in violence - you are going to be waiting even longer

[stewiegriffin]

He may have handled things badly but at least Lee tried . He could have written a lucrative book like other 'critics' and 'observers' . He chose to get stuck in and do something , alas he was not allowed to progress in the 'closed shop' of Irish politics.

[orourkeda]

Eloquently put.
The panel was unanimous on Vincent Browne's show earlier that he could not return to RTE - maybe he could go to TV3?

It appeared to me that they were adamant that he couldnt return to his previous role within RTE, not to RTE itself.

[orourkeda]

He may have handled things badly but at least Lee tried . He could have written a lucrative book like other 'critics' and 'observers' . He chose to get stuck and do something , alas he was not allowed to progress in the 'closed shop' of Irish politics.

I dont necessarily agree. It appears to me that he bailed out when the going got rough. I think he could have tried that bit harder.

[irishpancake]

In regard to Mr G.LEE

I feel that this person was a Trojan Horse inserted into Fine Gael, precisely to achieve the present result.

It looks to me like something is definitely rotten in the State of Denmark.

This person has timed his exit to coincide with

1) a rise in FF support in opinion polls

2) mutterings against the current Leader of Fine Gael

3) a time-frame which allows this man to return to RTE without any apparent penalty and there is a GE due within the next 2 years

What about this man's constituents?

What about all the blather from him regarding his Children and Grandchildren, and their opinion of his "Courageous Stand".

We had the PD's already Mr. GLEE, and I don't think the Citizens of this Republic are ready for a re-run.


IMHO, the purpose of this dirty tricks enterprise of infiltrating FG was to attempt to destroy the Fine Gael's Party's chances of success at the next GE, which is probably closer now than before this event, by attempting to cause a Leadership Challenge to overthrow the current Leader, which would weaken the Party in the event of a snap GE.

It looks to me that this was always the plan!!!