Sen Eoghan Harris blames republicanism for child sexual abuse

[merle haggard]

Oblivious to the massive scandals in British care homes , not least the horrors of kincora , the establishment run by a unionist fellow traveller of his own - British intelligence agent William " the beast" McGrath - Eoghan Harris has seized upon the issue of clerical sexual abuse as yet another reason to bang his little British drum .

sorry im so late in posting this but ive only noticed this there now

and Joan Burton agrees with him , praised this speech back in may ( think i was banned at the time)

“Under British rule, these abuses were not practised in Roman Catholic institutions and Protestants did not practise them. The responsibility belongs to the Republic as a whole…
“There was a cover-up of the brutality of the War of Independence and the Civil War. We covered up pogroms against Protestants. We are very good at covering up things which touch on the national question. I have no doubt that every brother and priest involved was a devout nationalist. Indeed, that was part and parcel of the thing. The relationship with the Republic, its professional classes and the republican ethic concerns me. Ministers for Education, politicians, barristers, lawyers, doctors and the entire Irish professional middle class, who all professed republicanism and all wanted a united Ireland, turned a blind eye. It is ironic that if we had never left the British Empire and if the Treaty had never been signed, whatever else we might have suffered, these innocent victims would never have suffered. Our promise to cherish the children of the nation equally turned out to be an empty one.
“I say these things as a warning. There is a deep brutality in Irish nationalism. It came up most recently in the Provos punishment beatings of children in Belfast ghettos. The problem is not simply in the Roman Catholic Church. It is in the republican ethic itself.”

is it just me or does anyone else think eoghan harris is a sick minded sonofab*tch for using these victims as just a cheap excuse to attack republicanism . Particularly bearing in mind his support for fianna fail and the fact he owes his well paid senatorship to them . I note too that he does not include the silence of the rte current affairs department which he and his close chums were running , along with regular media colums , in the above list of blame for the cover ups .

Is this possibly the lowest that this despicable little man has stooped yet ?

[SevenStars]

WOW!

That geniunely shocked me!

But in reality it was the defeat of the Republican ethic...the killing or forcing to emigrate of the most progressive and characterful people in the 26 counties by the Free State forces and the ethos of mercantile narrow pettiness that the treatyites enforced upon the country that paid a large part in things. The negative effects of the Treatyite counter-revolution are completely ignored by the elite today.

[conservative green]

Oblivious to the massive scandals in British care homes , not least the horrors of kincora , the establishment run by a unionist fellow traveller of his own - British intelligence agent William " the beast" McGrath - Eoghan Harris has seized upon the issue of clerical sexual abuse as yet another reason to bang his little British drum .

sorry im so late in posting this but ive only noticed this there now

and Joan Burton agrees with him , praised this speech back in may ( think i was banned at the time)

“Under British rule, these abuses were not practised in Roman Catholic institutions and Protestants did not practise them. The responsibility belongs to the Republic as a whole…
“There was a cover-up of the brutality of the War of Independence and the Civil War. We covered up pogroms against Protestants. We are very good at covering up things which touch on the national question. I have no doubt that every brother and priest involved was a devout nationalist. Indeed, that was part and parcel of the thing. The relationship with the Republic, its professional classes and the republican ethic concerns me. Ministers for Education, politicians, barristers, lawyers, doctors and the entire Irish professional middle class, who all professed republicanism and all wanted a united Ireland, turned a blind eye. It is ironic that if we had never left the British Empire and if the Treaty had never been signed, whatever else we might have suffered, these innocent victims would never have suffered. Our promise to cherish the children of the nation equally turned out to be an empty one.
“I say these things as a warning. There is a deep brutality in Irish nationalism. It came up most recently in the Provos punishment beatings of children in Belfast ghettos. The problem is not simply in the Roman Catholic Church. It is in the republican ethic itself.”

is it just me or does anyone else think eoghan harris is a sick minded sonofab*tch for using these victims as just a cheap excuse to attack republicanism . Particularly bearing in mind his support for fianna fail and the fact he owes his well paid senatorship to them . I note too that he does not include the silence of the rte current affairs department which he and his close chums were running , along with regular media colums , in the above list of blame for the cover ups .

Is this possibly the lowest that this despicable little man has stooped yet ?

Your post raises valid points. In relation to your first paragraph, another one to raise in this context is that the Jersey abuse scandal is ongoing and as with Kincora has very much been covered up. There are even allegations that senior members of the British establishment were involved.

[b.a. baracus]

Once again Harris pins the blame on Republicans. Many Republicans were excommunicated by the Catholic church for their activities and yet they, and not the political establishment who allowed this to happen, should take the blame for clerical child abuse.

Harris NEVER misses an opportunity to work Republicans and particularly the IRA into his weekly foamings in the Sindo. His agenda is so transparent it is laughable. Anyone who takes this fool seriously needs help.

[Prester Jim]

Republicans gave me hemorrhoids

[merle haggard]

Your post raises valid points. In relation to your first paragraph, another one to raise in this context is that the Jersey abuse scandal is ongoing and as with Kincora has very much been covered up. There are even allegations that senior members of the British establishment were involved.

theres also the issue of the victims of abuse in protestant care homes in the south who are complaining theyve been competely ignored and forgotten and who wont be getting a penny , much less any films made about them . Certainly eoghan harris wont be fighting their corner , as he completely refuses to accept protestants are capable of such things .

and joan burton apparently agrees .

[Prester Jim]

Seriously though, why is anyone surprised by what this subhuman turd says?

[SevenStars]

, as he completely refuses to accept protestants are capable of such things .

and joan burton apparently agrees .

The way female IRA volunteers or suspects were treated by the occupation forces during the troubles often was or was very, very close to sexual abuse and humiliation.

[merle haggard]

Seriously though, why is anyone surprised by what this subhuman turd says?

its not what this loon says that surprises me . Its that supposedly responsible institutions in this country continually pay him large amounts of money and give him a very public platform from which to say it .

and that other leaders such as Joan Burton publicly agree with his analysis . She went tonto newstalk not long after this vile rubbish and said she agreed with him . The same news station that Eohghan Harris blamed for the Dublin riots and demanded be shut down for being a subversive front or something

[mutley]

Oblivious to the massive scandals in British care homes , not least the horrors of kincora , the establishment run by a unionist fellow traveller of his own - British intelligence agent William " the beast" McGrath - Eoghan Harris has seized upon the issue of clerical sexual abuse as yet another reason to bang his little British drum .

sorry im so late in posting this but ive only noticed this there now

and Joan Burton agrees with him , praised this speech back in may ( think i was banned at the time)

“Under British rule, these abuses were not practised in Roman Catholic institutions and Protestants did not practise them. The responsibility belongs to the Republic as a whole…
“There was a cover-up of the brutality of the War of Independence and the Civil War. We covered up pogroms against Protestants. We are very good at covering up things which touch on the national question. I have no doubt that every brother and priest involved was a devout nationalist. Indeed, that was part and parcel of the thing. The relationship with the Republic, its professional classes and the republican ethic concerns me. Ministers for Education, politicians, barristers, lawyers, doctors and the entire Irish professional middle class, who all professed republicanism and all wanted a united Ireland, turned a blind eye. It is ironic that if we had never left the British Empire and if the Treaty had never been signed, whatever else we might have suffered, these innocent victims would never have suffered. Our promise to cherish the children of the nation equally turned out to be an empty one.
“I say these things as a warning. There is a deep brutality in Irish nationalism. It came up most recently in the Provos punishment beatings of children in Belfast ghettos. The problem is not simply in the Roman Catholic Church. It is in the republican ethic itself.”

is it just me or does anyone else think eoghan harris is a sick minded sonofab*tch for using these victims as just a cheap excuse to attack republicanism . Particularly bearing in mind his support for fianna fail and the fact he owes his well paid senatorship to them . I note too that he does not include the silence of the rte current affairs department which he and his close chums were running , along with regular media colums , in the above list of blame for the cover ups .

Is this possibly the lowest that this despicable little man has stooped yet ?

This man is obviously suffering from Obsessive Republican Disorder, it 5 years time will he be writing articles blaming Republicans on the property crash ,and Nama, and for the people voting yes to Lisbon?

Under British rule, these abuses were not practised in Roman Catholic institutions

I don't think the victims of Abuse mentioned here would agree with this

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14545790.html


What an absolute arse of an article by this twat