Sen Eoghan Harris blames republicanism for child sexual abuse

[merle haggard]

Harris supported the Iraq war and still does. 400 abused boys in Dublin is bad but how do you justify 20,000 dead Iraqi children?

dont forget for one second Harris personally and many of his political and personal associates were in charge of RTEs investigative current affairs department for many years. It should be put to him why he and they never once covered this awful subject despite this criminality being rife in the country . They were also a part of the states official blind eye to clerical predators and serious crime . Among other very serious crimes from foreign agencies operating illegally in this country who had a similar blank cheque to do what they wanted .
30 dead dubliners and hundreds maimed and wounded one friday afternoon in central dublin is another scandal the state will never allow come to light . But apparently its only awful if the deaths occur in an industrial school . We've a long way to go yet before we are maure enough to tackle the issue of state collusion in serious crime against its own citizens . And Harris is most defintely central to tht scenario . It was the gardai and RTE which covered these crimes up , not Irish republicans . Harris knows this and is pointing fingers away from the enablers of child abuse . And thats what hes paid to do .

[nixmix]

I am now utterly convinced that EH gets paid per anti republican sentence in his articles and not per word. He has to know he is churning out utter ********************e but doesnt give a damn as its what pays the bills.

[merle haggard]

I am now utterly convinced that EH gets paid per anti republican sentence in his articles and not per word. He has to know he is churning out utter ********************e but doesnt give a damn as its what pays the bills.

remember he said this openly in a chamber of government , where hes an unelected official . And a senior leader of the Irish labour parliamentary party fully agreed with him in the media afterwards . Not a single politician told him to feck off out of it and cop on like he should have been told .Theres more than just pay involved , theres a political mindset of utter and outright dishonesty that goes right accross all the establishment parties . Parties who were all either in power or in vocal opposition for the entirety of this vile scandal and serious criminality but who'll all tell you with a straight face they knew nothing about it .
A bunch of f*cking liars every last one of them . Harris is their court jester . A man who'll sink so low as to use the victims of child sex abuse as a platform for his disgusting reactionary prejudices and hatred of his own nation . And that agenda serves their agenda of avoiding the blame over what was really going on in the regimes they all presided over .

[rant_and_rave]

untrue . What was section 31 ? what was internment , the curragh and military courts in every decade right up to the 1970s ? The Irish state currently pays massive fines every year to the EU to opt out of much of its human rights legislation . Theres always been political repression in this country and its still there . The catholic church in Ireland was a necessary agent of social control alongside this political repression for much of the states blighted existence , a state whos often questioned legitimacy the catholic church was central to securing over many difficult years . Thats one definite reason why an official blind eye was turned to the minority of criminals and predators within its ranks by the state .
To oppose the catholic church in this state made you a political troublemaker , you effectively challenged a pillar of the state itself . In the formative years of the state right up untl the 1930s the only people who were holding public anti clerical protest marches were Irish republicans . The state went after them and crushed them , quite ruthlessly.

Most of the "repressive" measures you mentioned were challenged in the international courts and "all" the cases were thrown out.

[rant_and_rave]

margaret thatcher never once had a doctrine that the IRA could be militarily defeated . The British abandoned this in the mid 70s in favour of ulsterisation , normalisation and criminalisation which Thatcher inherited from the labour government who built the HBlocks and which the conservatives passed back on to the labour government . It was British policy , not party policy . They determined that the defeat of the IRA would be an ideological and political one , not an outright military one . They set out to defeat Irish republican seperatism as an ethos and ideology , not just a mere physical manifestation of it which was all the provos were . They knew very well that if the PIRA were physically defeated then another one would simply spring up and take its place after various wounds were licked . As always had happened . The British sought to put an end to this cycle . Whichever party was in power simply adhered to the same policy , which was MI5 policy .
As Downing street official Johnathon powell revealed recently what was holding the entire load of shyte up was gerry adams inability to take his own people with him and the British determination that there would be no split in the provos . That took many years . Harris despite his long list of faults simply isnt capable of getting in the way of British interests ( neither is john Bruton) . In such a scenario hes no more than a fart in the wind .
Neither the provo leadership nor the British actually wanted substantive negotiations so early on in the process . They didnt want the endgame revealed immediately , for that would have been the end of adams and mcguinness . Youll note that the Hume adams document is still kept secret from your average Irish citizen and sinn fein member . Its never been published . To have done so would have ruined adams .

Bollux. Military defeat of the IRA was central to Tory policy.

[merle haggard]

Most of the "repressive" measures you mentioned were challenged in the international courts and "all" the cases were thrown out.

thats because politically repressive measures arent illegal . Not because they werent happening .
And currently the situation is Ireland pays fines so doesnt have to bother with court challenges .

[merle haggard]

Bollux. Military defeat of the IRA was central to Tory policy.

well then point us to it instead of shouting bollix , and explain away Brendan Duddy and the Anglo Irish Agreement while your at it .

[seanad voter]

Eoghan is certainly earning his MI5 lodgements these days. Oops !

[bayern]

He is without doubt in my opinion displaying all the syptoms of lunacy.. the fact the Catholic Church had absolute control over this country for decades resulted in serious breaches and misuse of power.. how on earth could Republicans be held responsible for such crimes.. its bizzare.

[nixmix]

Eoghan is certainly earning his MI5 lodgements these days. Oops !

+1
And Republicans are wasting their time worrying about the 6 counties...theres plenty of work for them down here when we have goons like EH (of which no doubt there are many) perverting the national interest with their bile.