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Thread: Should Britian Express Regret for her Crimes in Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marx
    Quote Originally Posted by Mairtin Og Meehan
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    Can you be a bit more specific examples maybe?
    That's simple, first of all for her continued occupation of part of Ireland :wink:

    Her plundering the 32 Counties

    Her murdering of hundreds of thousands of Irish citizens :twisted:

    Oh yes, it's claim of ownership of Ireland :!:

    If U don't believe any of the above - just study our nation's history :wink:
    I am a University History student and well aware of our nations history I just wanted to see what you would say. You neglect to point out that many Irish helped Britain in her conquest it happened the day Henry II landed in Ireland and McCarthy Mor submitted to him. The Gaelic Chieftains surrendered their families lands under the Surrender and Regrant schemes etc. History isn't as simple as you think
    Thanks for a bit of Rational revisionism of our history, Indeed the Irish lords pandered for the scraps of the english table, cut the throats of other lords for financial and land gains, invited the english in, as for the Irish Famine the Strong farmers, and gonbeem men profited from the poor cottiers while the church stood by, and by the way,, it was the RC church and national schools that robed us of our Irish launguage, the Irish are as guilty as the english period.

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    The population of Ireland in the mid 19-th century before the potato-famine was over 8 million people. Nowadays it under 6 million(including the North). Ireland must be one of its kind in the developed world that the population is today lower than 200 yearsago.

    In my country, Finland, some researchers have come to a conclusion that the Finnish population today could be up to 10 million people instead of the 5.3 million we have, had it not been for the seven centuries of oppression by the imperialist Swedish-rule and especially the wars of the 16th and the 17th century in which the Swedish army fought to the last Finn to maintain the borders of the Swedish realm.

    The Great Northern War of 1700-21 almost brought the whole people Finland to become extinct. So futile and pointless were the wars waged by the kings(deliberately no capital for the word King when it refers to the Swedish one) that the Russian invasion of Finland in 1809 and incorporation of Finland into the Russian empire with an autonomous status seemed to most Finns at the time like a liberation.

    It is nowadays undisputed fact that christianity came to Finland via the east, therefore much earlier than the Swedes have let us believe that they brought the new religion to our shores in the 12th century.

    There is also a lot of evidence that the life in Finland prior to the Swedish invasion was quite developed as opposed to the view by the Swedes that the people of Finland lived in trees and caves before the Swedes brought their civilisation.

    All in all, I personally don`t believe that the Finnish population could today be 10 million had it not been for the disastrous centuries of the Swedish rule but could well be something like 7-8million instead of the current 5.3m.

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