Does the Southern people care what happened to the Northern Nationalists?

[IvoShandor]

[quote=Glennshane;2043081]

You have given offense to the oppressed Catholic people of Northern Ireland. You, a Stater, have dared to reprimand the Catholic freedom fighters about the methods they used to defend us from Prod murder gangs - despite your living at a safe distance from those Prod murder gangs. How low can you get? One would think that, having left us to fend for ourselves, you would do just that. But you Eirefolk seem to suffer from a compulsive urge to preach in high moral tones at the rest of humanity.

When are you going to apologise for preaching at those whom you abandoned in 1921 and again in 1969?

Sure you might as well be raving here as in the home

[Glennshane]

[quote=IvoShandor;2044194]

Sure you might as well be raving here as in the home

Stater, insults do not answer my argument. When are you going to apologise for being discourteous to those whom you, or your parents, abandoned in August 1969?

[Greenandred]

[quote=Glennshane;2044149][QUOTE=Greenandred;2043413]

"It is tolerated because their output, loathsome as it is, qualifies as free-speech."

Why does hate mongering against the oppressed race in Ulster qualify as free-speech?

"The fact that the Sindo is a tabloid boosts their circulation immensely."

Why does it boost the circulation? If Eirefolk are opposed to its anti-Catholic ranting, why has it not been boycotted out of existence?

"What right thinking person reads Eoghan Harris at this stage?"

Is he any worse than Kevin Myers, Ruth Dudley Edwards, Fintan O'Toole, John Drennan, Colm Toibin, Colum Kenny etc, etc?

"The activities of the IRA were the business of people down here, as said organisation have periodically killed defence personnel and engaged in crime in this state."

The activities of the IRA, within Northern Ireland defending Ulster Catholics, were and are no business of anyone in Eire. After all in 1969, you left us to fend for ourselves. Why not let us do just that as we ourselves see fit?

If the Sindo mongers hate against Irish people in general, what exempts nationalists in Ulster?


Again, the Sindo is a tabloid, many people probably buy it for that wretched 'Life' supplement. Harass is a member of that pro-union, far right clique that includes Myers, Edwards etc. I don't know anyone who takes them seriously.

Again, entirely our business given that they were fleeing across the border following their actions. And as for the IRA defending nationalists, give me a break. You seem to remember 1969 very well, so you'd probably remember their abject failure to defend nationalist areas. IRA-I Ran Away was daubed on quite a few walls in Belfast at the time. They didn't do a very good job of defending them subsequently either. How many 'Ulster Catholics' were killed during The Troubles? How many have been killed post- ceasefires? Do the math.

[Glennshane]

[QUOTE=Greenandred;2045471][quote=Glennshane;2044149][QUOTE=Greenandred;2043413]

"If the Sindo mongers hate against Irish people in general, what exempts nationalists in Ulster?"

We are the victims of tyranny who are being taunted by those Staters.

"Again, entirely our business given that they were fleeing across the border following their actions."

Were they always "fleeing across the border"? Even if they were, why were you interfering?

"And as for the IRA defending nationalists, give me a break. You seem to remember 1969 very well, so you'd probably remember their abject failure to defend nationalist areas."

At that time the IRA was led my silly southerners. Their "abject failure" was due to the influence of those silly southerners. And that "abject failure" led to the creation of the new IRA - the Provisional IRA - an Ulster Catholic IRA.

"They didn't do a very good job of defending them subsequently either."

They did more that you Staters did - which would not be difficult.

"How many 'Ulster Catholics' were killed during The Troubles? How many have been killed post- ceasefires? Do the math."

Please leave those matters for Ulster Catholics to decide.

[Boiled Oysters Malloy]

Was this really worth bumping?

[regularjoe]

As a southern nationalist and proud irishman i care deeply about fellow irish people.

[Anamnua]

As a southern nationalist and proud irishman i care deeply about fellow irish people.

Amen.

[democrat]

Why are Catholics in N.I. always referred to as "Nationalists"? (or by the misnomer "Republican"?). Is it impossible to be considered simply as a citizen of Northern Ireland?

[factual]

I think the appropriate response is to care for all of them equally not to care more for one religious group up there over another. Or one ethnic or racial group more than another.

[Cabbage/Turnip]

I care an awful alot about the 6.. so much so i have moved from kerry to the north to study when i could have just as easy just went to cork to study. and ecery drive i make up or down i dont notice any border and never will