Does the Southern people care what happened to the Northern Nationalists?

[hurling_lad]

I wouldnt blame someone for overlooking a Myers article, I wouldnt wipe my arse with his 'journalism'.

*EDIT
After now reading the article it comes to the same old conclusion, SF are to blame for the PSNI being 'soft'.
Usual southern crap, Loyalist attack and kill someone and they just have to blame some republicans, anyone will do.
Reading the southern media about the north is like reading the loyalist forums, same mentality.

The PSNI wernt 'soft' they were collaborating and facilitating terrorists.
Myers actually managed to pin blame on SF for these thugs, now thats revisionsim even the British couldnt manage.
I wonder what Myers could do with this in order to blame SF..
http://www.politics.ie/northern-irel...imidation.html

See what youve done now, you made me read a Myers article and now I'm mad.
Im going to watch TV for a while to cool down.

Hands up - that was a bit of a trolling post alright.

[absconded]

'Had' is a word you should try using.

Its abnormal that you think SF are a terrorist party, they got very little support during the troubles and its voters today are certainly not voting because of the past, the members of SF today are actuallypast IRA members who split from th erest of SF and supported and worked for ceasefire and delivered decommissioning.

There was a conflict here and its over, people up here can put it behind us easire than people in the south who still think SF are running around with semtex like in 1970.

FF developed in the same way, after conflicts in many countries across the world similar things have happened.

Nothing "had" about Mr ferris, and he "has" the blessing of SF leadership.

And again, my views are based on what I have seen written directly by Northerners on P.ie, not what has been twisted and spun by media in the Republic or elsewhere.

[iartaoiseach]

I've visited relatives over there several times I wasn't born in Ireland fyi (I'm from Houston).

good city i've heard. I was just wondering because things have changed a fair bit both north n south in the last 5 years. they've changed again recently for the worse.

[bungo]

Its seems that the Southern media and people never get outraged if a Northern Nationalist gets murdered, but it becomes wall to wall coverage if anyone from the Unionist side is murdered by Nationalists! Surely both are equally wrong!?
Or are Northern Nationalists lifes not worth as much?

Two things:

One - your perception is wrong. Are you suggesting that "the Southern media" don't care about Bloody Sunday? That we've never heard of it? That we don't care and we don't care about nationalists being killed by either loyalists or the british army / RUC? Just not true, sorry.

Two - if the actions of violent nationalism attract a lot of media attention down here, I'll give you one reason. It's because the IRA see fit to wrap themselves in our flag and appropriate "Irishness" (or at least their own narrow definition of it) in a way that makes the average decent Irishman embarrassed to have anything to do with them. No-one in Dublin (or anywhere else in the south) will ever tell you how great the UVF or the RUC are, so what's the point in talking about it or analysing it. The IRA are treated differently because they make out they are killing in our name.

[Eldritch]

"good city i've heard. I was just wondering because things have changed a fair bit both north n south in the last 5 years. they've changed again recently for the worse."

Well it's a little more complicated than that....

[Estragon]

I think most people in the Republic are largely removed from the goings on in the North. A murder in Belfast is about as relevant to your average Dub as a soldier in Afghanistan or Chad being murdered.

In fairness that's probably more relevant. Given that this kind of crap seems to be where the Free State identity is right now.

I'm sure Mr McKibbon would have been just as happy to patrol Crossmaglen providing he was getting a few shekels in the account every two weeks.

[st333ve]

Hands up - that was a bit of a trolling post alright.

He posted an article fron Kevin Myers as an example of the southern media exposure, showing a sectarian murder against an innocent catholic for what it was.

I was pointing out that Myers actually states in his article that the PSNI let this killing happen because SF made them soft.
Naturally I commented on the obvious fact that the killing had nothing to do with SF, the PSNI failed to do their job and a man died because of it.

Its a good example of the southern medias long running fixation with somehow linking or blaming everything on nationalists.

So to sum it up the article certainly is not evidence of impartial reporting atall.

[mutley]

It´s abnormal in the 21st century that so many people could support a political party with such strong terrorist links. Can´t you see that.

then can you understand how we feel when we here about your presidents husband playing golf with the UDA boss?

[Fraxinus]

It's mostly a Dublin thing to be honest. Lived in Dublin for 5 years and there was plenty of the random insults from complete strangers previously mentioned. "Black Nordie b'stard, go back to your own country" etc. From random strangers walking down the street or in a shop!

Lived in Galway for 7 years and it was utterly different, it never came up at all, in any form, it was simply accepted that you were Irish like anyone else.

I still say if we re-partitioned but gave Dublin back to the Brits and took possession of the Six and called it quits, everyone would be much happier with the result.

I've noticed that too that Dubs seem to have more of a chip on their shoulder against people from the 6 than most others but that's not to say some 'culshies' don't.
I'd nearly wager that most people are more negative towards Dubs than they are to northerners. Especially people from Cill Dara, I've never come across such hatred for fellow Irish people than Kildare folks have for Dubs.

[st333ve]

Well I would agree with the Dublin problem.
For instance in Kerry people seem actually interested when they hear you're from the north and are really friendly and accomidating.

In a way its what keeps me going back, the craics great and so are the people.

However in Dublin there really seems to be a very negative attitude towards northerners and its well known up here.
I remember doing a simple thing like getting some sterling changed in Grafton street when I got off the train.
The clerk literally threw the Euro back at me and gave me such a dirty look.
Ok she might have been having a bad day, but it certainly seemed more likely that she didnt like me.
She didnt do it to the people infront of me.

I dont like hanging around the place, it would seem that the immigrants are more accepted than northerners.