Does the Southern people care what happened to the Northern Nationalists?

[MrYouGoBoss]

these cowards running things down here in the south just want an easy life its as simple as that, they dont care about us in the south or ye in the north, they just want all the problems hushed up so there lives are easy, there cowards, then you have the west brits, the nationalists in the north are an embarrasment to them, they cant see the bigger picture, or view things in the fullness of time, they worry only about themselves, they are also cowards

[HEAVENHELPUS]

"The death of a unionist allows every single reporter and TD to have a pop at Sinn Féin "

Yes we wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of the same people who spent 30+ slaughtering Irish people now would we? But then I don't expect someone who uses the name of a moron who killed himself for nothing to have a realistic POV.

You love us really.

[Eldritch]

"Its seems that the Southern media and people never get outraged if a Northern Nationalist gets murdered, but it becomes wall to wall coverage if anyone from the Unionist side is murdered by Nationalists! Surely both are equally wrong!?
Or are Northern Nationalists lifes not worth as much?"

Oh the irony! You expressed outrage at the release of loyalist terrorists and yet you support the release of the scum who murdered Jerry McCabe so if you want to deal with hypocrisy start with yourself.

[iartaoiseach]

I wasnt talking about murders specifically, I was talking about the partitionist media in the south which favours the unionist outlook.

Eg.
RTE’s enduring partitionism @ O’Conall Street

And you know full well how certain people think down south when it comes to the north, they might not stand up on TV and say it but everyone knows that there is a hatered against 'nordies' in the south and I have personally experienced it many times.

Ofcourse it is a minority which do this but its certainly a problem,albeit a widely ignored one.
The likes of Harris etc. who idolise Trimble and the rest of his unionst buddies have propped up this notion and its not paranoia for people in the north to acknowledge this.

Just look at RTE, a 'national' broadcaster that had a radio competition where people phoned up to name the counties in Ulster, left out Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan yet won the prize!
RTE’s enduring partitionism @ O’Conall Street

I dont think there's heirachy when it comes to murder, but in general the south is becoming extremely neo-unionist in certain quarters, infact personally I believe the south's Irish identity is slowly fading away all together.

There is no sence of a nation on this island anymore, thats what the souths media want - and thats what the divide and conquer British wanted from a long time ago.
Everythings us and them, up here and down there - euro's and sterling north/south protestant/catholic.

The south's media support the mess that this countries in.

I would say that they are tired of the whole 'ye don't care about us' kinda stuff more than actual hatred. a lot of northerners seem to have a sack of spuds on their shoulders about the whole thing-maybe understandable but annoying all the same.
For instance why the need to wear the GAA tops when on holidays in the south do we all have to know where you are from. why this constant need to make the statement? Its only a trivial thing but it signifies an underlying insecurity imo. And when we hear the moaning about how little we care it alienates us further.
I can't say I can understand how you all feel because how could I, not having experienced 30 yrs + of civil war. I have however met plenty from both sides of the divide when I was on my travels and I admired them all because they all said they left to get away from the rubbish that was going on. If there was less of the flag waving from both communities it might help people to get on better.

edit: by the way Harris is wrong on just about everything so no surprise that he's wrong on the north

[sauntersplash]

Its seems that the Southern media and people never get outraged if a Northern Nationalist gets murdered, but it becomes wall to wall coverage if anyone from the Unionist side is murdered by Nationalists! Surely both are equally wrong!?
Or are Northern Nationalists lifes not worth as much?

I think most people in the Republic are largely removed from the goings on in the North. A murder in Belfast is about as relevant to your average Dub as a soldier in Afghanistan or Chad being murdered.

[Eldritch]

"these cowards running things down here in the south just want an easy life its as simple as that"

If you really want a united Ireland start by dealing with your bigotry towards people in the ROI.

[Darren Mac an Phríora]

I believe that the Indo Group were despicable during the first Hume Adams talks. I still don't buy anything from the group.

The SBP has always been nationalist. The Tribune was very when Matt Cooper was the editor and Ed Maloney was there.

I don't buy the argument (and think it to be delusional) that anyone in the media in the Republic overeacts more when a unionist is killed.

SF lost their trump cards when they joined the Executive; said that they supported the police; and ended the IRA and decommissioned (although yes the so-called Army Council is still intact I believe). They were right and it looks like the majority of Northern Nationalists aren't going to turn away from them in the short-term and that they will continue to be the largest nationalist party in NI.

Nationalists in the Republic though now don't see what is wrong with the situation of nationalists in NI. Indeed in some ways they have it better namely with the price of goods. Because of this and because the Shinners are significantly bigger than the SDLP hardly anyone in the South cares anything about the North as a troublespot because frankly it isn't in terms of violence in the way it used to be. When unification is clearly only 20 years away the whole NI situation will politically be covered a lot more in the Southern media. Sectarian killings up there will always be covered by the southern media at least by the respectable newspapers and radio stations...

[bobbysands81]

"these cowards running things down here in the south just want an easy life its as simple as that"

If you really want a united Ireland start by dealing with your bigotry towards people in the ROI.

Like whom?

[Eldritch]

I was referring to how he referred to everyone in the ROI as 'cowards'; he sounds just like a UVF member.

[st333ve]

I would say that they are tired of the whole 'ye don't care about us' kinda stuff more than actual hatred.

Why do people in the south just randomly say rude things when they hear your northern accent?

Do you think its because theyre sick of hearing people complain or because there is an attitude against the north which is no different than the sectarianism people face up here?

I dont think I've heard anyone in the south ever acknowledge this problem, theres always an excuse for it.
Ask anyone up here who goes down south a lot and I guarantee you they could come up with atleast 3 instances when some stereotyping southerner has had a go at them for being from the north.

People in the south dont give a stuff about their own country considering the fact that FF is still in power, I dont care if they dont care about the north but I would expect to able to go out for a night without being told 'speak f*ing English' or spat on in Dublin for wearing an Armagh top, having my car attacked because it had northern plates or getting asked ' how to you live in that awful place up there'.

Do I deserve comments like this from people who dont even know me or have spoken to me?

I'd rather walk down the Shankill road in Belfast than through some parts of Dublin or other towns, I'd be safer.