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Thread: BBC accept UVF started the "troubles"

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    obviously the uvf started it , they are loyalists and they are the scum of this earth

    they have no right in ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisco View Post
    It's Ulster-Scots...
    No it's not. It's just the local slang. Even I as a southerner know it means 'really screwed-up'. There is no such thing as Ulster Scots.

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    Which was the chicken and which was the egg? Both views could be argued from the historical record of terrorism and counterterrorism known as the ‘Troubles ‘..
    However there is an interesting array of loyalists 'firsts'. Loyalists carried out the first murders of the Troubles (Malvern St -Gusty Spence etc), the first bombings (the UPV bombings of water and electricity utilities outside Belfast in 1969), murdered the first policeman (Constable Arbuckle in 1969),carried out the first crossborder attack (Ballyshannon electricity station,Donegal,1969), and were the first to fire on the British Army (Shankhill Road Oct 10/11, 1969). Most of what political violence has been going on since 1998 has been carried out by loyalists - multiple pipebombings etc – a fact which is consistently ignored in the pro-unionist southern media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topotheday View Post
    I thought The Catholics begged The British to send The British Army in to protect them?

    When the cops were attacking them and the republic reneged on their duty they were the last resort as the IRA had few men and less arms as they had stood down, then the army reverted to form - not that this ahs anything directly to do with 1966
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anamnua View Post
    No it's not. It's just the local slang. Even I as a southerner know it means 'really screwed-up'. There is no such thing as Ulster Scots.
    When you are sure that you have paid the insurance and ring them up after being burgled, gleefully thinking of how this will turn a disaster into an advantage and find, to your utter and complete horror, the wife never sent the cheque which is still at the bottom of her handbag, and you have no insurance you are quare gunked for example, so it means a severe shock along a disappointment type line
    [FONT=&quot]"You Popish rogue" 'ní leomhaid a labhairt sinn
    acht "Cromwellian dog" is focal faire againn
    nó "cia súd thall" go eann gan eagla
    "Mise Tadhg" géadh teinn an t-agallamh

    Bodaigh an Cháise táid go hatuireach
    ag filleadh ar a gcéird gach spéice smeartha aca
    gan ghunna, gan chloidheamh gan pinnse chleachtadar
    d'imthigh a mbrígh is tá an cridhe dá ghreada aca.[/FONT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyQueing View Post
    When you are sure that you have paid the insurance and ring them up after being burgled, gleefully thinking of how this will turn a disaster into an advantage and find, to your utter and complete horror, the wife never sent the cheque which is still at the bottom of her handbag, and you have no insurance you are quare gunked for example, so it means a severe shock along a disappointment type line
    The other example where I heard it used is when you kick the bucket expecting to go to heaven and find yourself in the other place.
    It loosely approximates to 'bummer' in 'cool' American slang - except nobody claims this is a language in its own right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anamnua View Post
    The other example where I heard it used is when you kick the bucket expecting to go to heaven and find yourself in the other place.
    It loosely approximates to 'bummer' in 'cool' American slang - except nobody claims this is a language in its own right.
    And right they are as it isn't
    [FONT=&quot]"You Popish rogue" 'ní leomhaid a labhairt sinn
    acht "Cromwellian dog" is focal faire againn
    nó "cia súd thall" go eann gan eagla
    "Mise Tadhg" géadh teinn an t-agallamh

    Bodaigh an Cháise táid go hatuireach
    ag filleadh ar a gcéird gach spéice smeartha aca
    gan ghunna, gan chloidheamh gan pinnse chleachtadar
    d'imthigh a mbrígh is tá an cridhe dá ghreada aca.[/FONT]

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    hes right , anamnua facts are correct , they were the first people to do all the stuff as listed

    thanks for the facts , a few people proved wrong

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    [QUOTE=topotheday;1829485]st333ve said:


    " And yet blacks in the deep South didn't blow up any babies and yet still achieved their goals. Strange. "

    Ulster Catholics can do without the goody, goody stories. How Blacks in the USA respond to tyranny is their business, how we do so is our business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anamnua View Post
    Even I as a southerner know it means 'really screwed-up'.
    Alas you are mistaken in that. See above.

    It loosely approximates to 'bummer' in 'cool' American slang.
    It doesn't, I am afraid.

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