Northern Nationalists Supporting New Policing Structures

[Molly]

My position is that the British state in Ireland is a failed state and making it unworkable would be an option Id be fully in favour of . As things stand the political parties are doing a fairly good job of that themselves .
If they want progress essentially the provos will have to disband, join the PSNI and dump Martin McGuinness from any ministerial role to please the DUP .
My idea of progress would be getting rid of the British state in Ireland completely . I dont see this current activity as progressive in the slightest .

So that’s your story and your sticking to it. Its not the case that the police are burning catholic homes and locking up civil rights activists. The British might have completely failed in those days but don’t you think its worth working to create a government which can look out for the interests of the people who vote for them? Might be an old fashioned view of politics but I thought that was the point. There is nothing to be gained by this strategy. Or is there? Can you actually explain how that strategy works? Where does it lead?

[merle haggard]

heres a report today on how welcome the PSNI are in a town not far from me

THE COMMUNITY in Crossmaglen is up in arms after the PSNI's decision to vest land instead of returning it to its owners as had been previously agreed.

The land was claimed by the Army 25 years ago and was expected to be returned to the original owners in October.

But they will now receive a fee in lieu of their land.

"This is totally unacceptable," said Newry and Armagh Sinn Fein MP Conor Murphy.

"This is a community that had to endure the British Army intruding on their lives and their homes, now there is an attempt to stop their rightful property being returned."

According to Sinn Fein councillor Terry Hearty, the landowners received letters last week notifying them that they had a fortnight to consult with their solicitors over the vesting.

"This is dirty tricks against the people of Crossmaglen by the PSNI or whoever it is that is pulling the strings," said Mr Hearty. "People here are devastated and view it as theft."

The vesting of the land is seen as a huge setback to the area.

"While people are welcoming change and new investment, particularly in the Crossmaglen area, the stark reality is that the PSNI want to retain this unsightly and redundant monstrosity of a barracks," said Mr Hearty.

He suggested that the PSNI is keen to justify its presence in Crossmaglen by suggesting the area is a lawless bandit country.

"This attempt to hold onto stolen land clearly shows that this agenda is still their priority," said Mr Hearty.

The PSNI have a different take on events.

"We have a simple and straightforward objective," said Newry and Mourne DCU commander Bobby Hunniford. "We want to make the whole district a safer place for everyone and I believe we are doing that."

Mr Hunniford said that the PSNI must have a physical presence if they are to build on the confidence and support of the public.

"Crossmaglen and Newtownhamilton police stations both provide that," he said.

"Both stations have an important role to play in the ongoing development of policing in the area."

Mr Hunniford said that in order to maintain this service the Policing Board needs to secure some of the ground on which both stations are built.

"Part of the grounds in both cases was originally requisitioned under emergency legislation which expires at the end of July," he said.

"If the owners are unwilling to sell, then vesting orders will be required. This is about providing the people of the whole of our south Armagh sector what they need and what, I believe, they want - a normal, professional and effective policing service."

theyre viewed as nothing more than foreugn land grabbers . They had announced theyd be pulling out of the area completely . Now they arent . Theyre keeping the option to rebuild a larger barracks just like the one that was in cross throughout the troubles in case this British force come under attack . Which they surely will . Now theyre taking peoples lands by force .
Thats the new PSNI and your policing boards for you . Robbing peoples land with impunity .

[ireland2004]

Sinn Féin and its street-bound ‘restorative justice’ apparatchiks may try to tell us what we ought to want, or may try to claim what do want, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

How many people from the Nationalist community work with and go to the CRJ in comparison to people going to meetings of the DPP? Or how many people don't tell the PSNI in comparison to those who do? There are problems in my own area with drugs and underage drinking etc but I've yet to hear about anyone contact the PSNI about them.

[merle haggard]

I wouldnt entertain either to be quite honest .