Eire Nua

[bonty]

I have been reading rsf's document eire nua, it is a much better template for peace than the failed GFA.

I like the idea of munster having its own regional parliment based in Cork City, decisions could be taken by munster people alone in our best interests.

It would also reduce the travel expenses of munster TDs having to travel to Dublin.

It would increase pride in ones province, which are truly Irish, unlike the false counties drawn up by the British and reinforced by GAA loyalty.

[Prophet&seer]

Yes, third positionism is a good thing. It reminds me much of Irelands corporitists of the 30s the Blueshirts.


Although most of RSFs moronic parochial supporters think its socialism.


Its intresting that RSF and the BNP as ultra-Nationalists share the same economic outlook and other views.
When this was pointed out on the RSF site the moderator went ape************************ with an instant ban

One of the Republicans linked this from the Dorry Irish Republican crack party forum.



http://rsmforum.proboards107.com/index. ... 630&page=1


If RSF opposed immigration(which they make little mention of) they would be 100% "far right".

Whats intresting is just how full of s*** irish Republicans actually are, claiming to be various Oxymorons at the same time.

Sinn Fein "we are nationalists and internationalists".

The IRSP are Marxists and Nationalists (Impossible as Class and Nation are in direct conflict, unless they are far right National Bolshevicks)

RSF support distributism (which is third positionism /corportism), yet claim its socialism, liars or just confussed ?

[Comrád Ó Dubhláin]

those arent oxymorons, you can be a nationalist and an internationalist. Nationalism is not necessarily, national chauvinism or supremacist. You can love your own culture, want your nation to have self determination and still have respect for other nations and cultures and believe in international brotherhood. As for marxism and nationalism, it worked quite well for James Connolly. Nationalism can be used as a tool to divide people, but it can also be a tool used to unite people in one specific place, whether or not this is used for good or bad is another story and through history has depended on those in power.

[Prophet&seer]

But internationalist as Sinn Fein uses it means multi-culturalist. You cant have it both ways, you cant go on about Ireland losing its languge, and claim you defend its culture and but then say how great multi-culturalism is, that is indeed a contradiction. Nationalism and multi-culturalism are opposites.


James Connolly was a hyprocite whos death saved him from the glaring contadiction of his position. He talked about a pure Irish race, as well as preaching class war.


Class and Nation are in direct conflict, you cannot be a Marxist Nationalist As I said that makes you a National Bolshevik.

[holdini]

I hate to say it, but Iagree with P+S onthis one.......

Class struggle and National struggle are complete oxymorons.

[ON THE ONE ROAD]

But internationalist as Sinn Fein uses it means multi-culturalist. You cant have it both ways, you cant go on about Ireland losing its languge, and claim you defend its culture and but then say how great multi-culturalism is, that is indeed a contradiction. Nationalism and multi-culturalism are opposites.

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don't think it's a contradiction an imigrent of the boat has absolutley no bearing on whether i choose to speak irish support GAA listen to irish music or engage in anything that might be defined as irish culture. Thats a choice i make no one can force me to like it or not to like it. The same goes for anybody else

[DSCH]

I hate to say it, but Iagree with P+S onthis one.......

Class struggle and National struggle are complete oxymorons.

Indeed, separatist nationalism is reactionary and diversionary. It acts as a bulwark against international brotherhood!

[ON THE ONE ROAD]

I hate to say it, but Iagree with P+S onthis one.......

Class struggle and National struggle are complete oxymorons.

So you believe socialism should wait?

[mbari hogun]

"The IRSP are Marxists and Nationalists (Impossible as Class and Nation are in direct conflict, unless they are far right National Bolshevicks) "

I don't think the IRSP describe themselves as nationalist; they'd probably be more likely to call themselves anti-imperialist. And if you seriously want to argue that anti-imperialism and Marxism are incompatible, well, good luck.

By the way, who else thinks that prophet and seer is ladyboy?

[DSCH]

"The IRSP are Marxists and Nationalists (Impossible as Class and Nation are in direct conflict, unless they are far right National Bolshevicks) "

I don't think the IRSP describe themselves as nationalist; they'd probably be more likely to call themselves anti-imperialist. And if you seriously want to argue that anti-imperialism and Marxism are incompatible, well, good luck.

So are the IRSP merely a subgroup of a global WRSP, or do they plan to export the revolution to the world after they have seized power in Ireland?