Page 1 of 18 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 180

Thread: Northern Nationalists feeling "lonely and unwanted"

  1. #1
    Politics.ie Regular pete2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    3,453

    Northern Nationalists feeling "lonely and unwanted"

    There is a strange tension in the air. Some of it has to do with the June elections. Some has to do with the economic doom that is sweeping the world. But beyond the usual election posturing and the reluctant recognition that our local political institutions are economically powerless, there is a negative frisson that needs some exploration...

    The SDLP have lost their influence and access to the Irish government and have failed to persuade the voters that they have a vision for the future or the energy to bring it about. Sinn Fein is floundering. Still strong in the north but showing little ability to attract more than eight per cent of the southern electorate, much of their original buoyancy has dissipated. Even the days of open access to the taoiseach are gone. I would suspect that they may not even have Brian Cowen’s mobile number...

    I think nationalists are feeling, once again, lonely and unwanted. And that is not a healthy position. It hasn’t reached a critical condition but it could do with some tending to. There are many interpretations of how the ‘Troubles’ came to an end but the critical one was the realisation that nationalism could not defeat unionism and unionism could not defeat nationalism. It took years to get that in to the heads of republicans and even more years to get it into the heads of the DUP. Now it seems that they need reminding of it from time to time...

    In the meantime and in this period of uncertainty and nervousness, the onus is on the Irish government to devise and provide a comfort blanket to northern nationalism. If that means more representation in the Dail and Senate then better it happen soon.
    Irish News: NEWS: COLUMNISTS: Nationalists feeling lonely and unwanted
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

  2. #2
    Politics.ie Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Republic of Ireland
    Posts
    1,903

    Ah, for God's sake, when are they going to grow up and get a life like the rest of us? Their chronic sense of victimhood is even worse than the siege mentality of the Unionists.

  3. #3
    Politics.ie Regular Pat Mc Larnon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    North Belfast
    Posts
    5,774

    Denis Bradley speaks for no one but Denis Bradley. Perhaps he could tell us who exactly he spoke to in order to gain this insight into the minds of the nationalist people.

    I find this kind of bellyaching embarrassing and i wish these 'public figures' would desist from such nonsense.

    The people in the 6 counties vote their leaders in, the nationalist people vote for SF. If they think ideas should be forwarded to the Irish government avenues already exist to express concerns and fears.

  4. #4
    Politics.ie Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Republic of Ireland
    Posts
    1,903

    A comfort blanket
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That's something you'd give to a 2-year-old toddler. SF run candidates in the Republic. If their representation in the Dáil or Seanad is to be increased then it will be the electorate here that decides at the ballot box, not our incompetent government.

  5. #5
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    In negative equity.
    Posts
    3,356

    That's because they are on their own and no- one wants them.

    But they suck on the tit of her britanic majesty through social welfare, grants, 60% plus in public sector, the NHS and then b.itch about her. It is a handout culture obessed by their now largely insignificant problem - two sets of white christians pretending they have self-government on how to share some land.
    The scenery is stunning - its a shame we can't get vacant possession. Watch the film Eden Lake and then visit a northern town on a sunny bankholiday monday - scary. The only reason to go there is the landscape and maybe belfast city centre.
    Newry is best avoided but in fairness that has more to do with the dregs of southern society invading every day (someone should tell them shops don't open on a sunday until noon).
    Last edited by Question R24U; 2nd May 2009 at 03:17 PM.
    If the banks are out for a bail,
    and Lenny's efforts end up as a fail,
    when the Somer does come,
    to the Country they'll run,
    And leave a Fine mess for the Gael.

    Endinf the one Party (FF) state:

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

  6. #6
    Politics.ie Regular pete2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    3,453

    Quote Originally Posted by Phinaeus View Post
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That's something you'd give to a 2-year-old toddler. SF run candidates in the Republic. If their representation in the Dáil or Seanad is to be increased then it will be the electorate here that decides at the ballot box, not our incompetent government.
    Does it really matter? Most of the decisions are taken in Europe anyway. If some tokenism in the south talking shop stops violence "up there", which is what Bradley is getting at, then surely its worthwhile?
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

  7. #7
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    3,107

    I love Northern Nationalists and Irish Unionists

    In fact I love everyone.

  8. #8
    Politics.ie Regular JCSkinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Dublin NSide and Belfast 15
    Posts
    17,517

    He's right, of course.
    We were abandoned in the 20s, in 69 and again when articles 2 and 3 were jettisoned.
    In return, we got Stormont back and the promise of peace (Loyalists and dissidents not included.)
    People have seen through this. While peace is welcome, what we have is not a lasting peace.
    The national question must be addressed. There should be a white paper on unification in response to the Tory landgrab in the North.
    Please sign the petition to establish a national day of celebration in honour of the vision of the United Irishmen!

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

  9. #9
    Politics.ie Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    1,267

    Quote Originally Posted by Phinaeus View Post
    Ah, for God's sake, when are they going to grow up and get a life like the rest of us? Their chronic sense of victimhood is even worse than the siege mentality of the Unionists.
    You, dear sir, are the reason plantation was deemed unnecessary in the South.

  10. #10
    Politics.ie Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    555

    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Rat View Post
    You, dear sir, are the reason plantation was deemed unnecessary in the South.
    Really? But there were plantations in S Ireland going back to Norman times, and in the early 17 century we've had the arrival of the so called 'New English' who brought the reformed faith with them.
    Over the centuries these settlers integrated into Irish society and everybody in this neck of the woods now identify themselves as Irish and citizens of the ROI, even those what hold British citizenship do so as well.

    The settlers in Ulster were of a different kind though, they were mainly Scottish and did not quite gel with the indigenous population due to some reason or other.
    Perhaps you're two of a kind, a most disagreeable lot to say the least.

Page 1 of 18 12311 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 67
    Last Post: 17th May 2011, 09:53 AM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 4th June 2009, 07:05 PM
  3. "Northern Ireland is a better place"- Irish Times
    By Nixey68 in forum Northern Ireland
    Replies: 54
    Last Post: 18th July 2008, 11:05 AM
  4. "The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland"
    By unicorn in forum Progressive Democrats
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 19th September 2006, 10:33 AM
  5. The Term "Northern Ireland"
    By Pidge in forum Northern Ireland
    Replies: 105
    Last Post: 27th June 2005, 01:35 PM