Apologies if I sounded a tad strident, it wasn't intended I assure you. Having read your post again I concede that you weren't suggesting that ignoring Hughes was official policy, but it's late and drink is a factor.
On the other hand I doubt if a situation would have arisen,back then where a couple of "local cops", unsupported, would have found themselves looking at Hughes in the early hours of the morning. Having said that, I only served in what were termed "Hard Areas" ie. military primacy, so what the police got up to elsewhere I can't really comment on. Hughes though, was a high priority suspect and was on the wanted list throughout NI, not just where he was active. I certainly remember seeing his mug.
A final note, Sgt. Oram definitely wasn't SAS, but I'm not going to elaborate, you'll just have to trust me on this one.![]()
It's not so much that we could do no wrong, merely that most of what is written about the Security Forces on this site is completely and utterly wrong, and that's putting it mildly. The fact is, most commentators here have no real knowledge of the Army or Police and are merely speculating as to the mindset, motivation and modus operandi of the SF during the troubles. This lack of insight more often than not leads to completely innacurate conclusions on their part, (but I suppose that was part of the plan all along).
On the other hand "we" had infiltrated all of the main terrorist groups, both technically and "humanly" and knew exactly how our opponents thought and behaved.
As for the Ranaghan Road, you've got me there, but unless you were physically present at the time then you know only as much as I do, all else is speculation surely?
Agreed, setting aside KingKane's clarification for the OP that Great is a geographical term, and not being a particular apologist for perfidious Albion, there are many things Britain has given us that give me no end of pleasure.
Her language and Literature, (which of course th Irish perfected, Wilde, Shaw, O Casey, Swift, Yeats, Heaney,etc) but how poor we would have been without Willie Shakepseare,
Donne, Vaughan, Pope, Marvel, Keats, Wordsworth, Shelly, Byron, Dickens, Elliot (Georgre), Hardy, Austin, the Brontes, Orwell, Pinter, and so many more.
Aos, Britain was ahead of the rest of us in her wariness of a European Super State by stealth, and is proving to be right about the corporatist and corrupt collosus that the European Project is becoming, pity Browne then has to betray his country's best instincts.
Sooooo!!!!!!
let me see, the debate ye're all are havin is about the ability of our (USA) subservants army , the para's ability to root out a bunch of hacks (the ra)?
Am I correct in my understanding of this? That there are some here who would tout the abilitys of her majesty's guard. A bunch of murdering thugs who failed over the course of 30 odd yrs to defeat, with their tanks and guns and hellicopters a lot of pitch fork wielding bog men.
The English got their asses kicked in WW2 and in the bogs of Antrim.They would all be speaking German now but for the yanks. Remember lend, lease etc?
Never forget it.
Beggars!
I guess it's like looking down on a little spider attacking an ant.
England needs to get over herself, she and all of her glory are apart of the past, relegated to the second division if you will.
Nothing but a bunch of Lilliputs!
If it was not for the generosity of Britain in taking in Irish immigrants the republic would not be an independent nation. It would not have survived.
If it was not for the sacrifice of the British army standing alone before the Yanks got involved in WW2 you would be speaking German.
You suffer from classic small nation syndrome, its a psychological condition where by the inhabients of small nations next to bigger more succesful ones base their psyschological construct around negativity to their neighbour. Your a sad individual.
Last edited by greasytrucker; 14th April 2009 at 06:10 AM.