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    Quote Originally Posted by greasytrucker View Post
    Your yet another inadequate with low self esteem, get a life.

    The UK armed forces, Paras, Marines, SAS etc are the most experienced in the world and widely regarded so, even by the Americans.
    The UK armed forces, Paras,Marines and SAS are the most experienced murderers in the world? Yes I'd probably agree with you but surely it cannot be something to be proud of by any decent individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Rat View Post
    Whenever the IRA killed members of the SAS, the brits denied it (To maintain their Batman mythos, you see) and buried the body as some lowly grunt. Like the two SAS members killed in Cappagh, Tyrone. Riddled with bullets in the front of their car in a Counter-ambush. A priest gave them last rights. Car lifted with chinook away from scene. Car taken to West Germany, brits claim they died in car-crash.

    Shall we get into the others?
    As a rule I try to ignore your infantile posts but in this case I will rise to the bait and challenge you to provide proof of this allegation. I have previously debated this whole subject (casualty denial by the British Army) on this forum and thought I had comprehensively demolished it, nonetheless, if you have plausible evidence of his incident then lets hear it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    In Hughes' case, he didn't wear a mask when he was bombing villages so it that end of it was well known to both sides and the Police/Army. In fact, where he was concerned, he is known to have been ignored at ro******************************************s rather than take a chance on trying to arrest him.
    With all due respect I will have to take issue with this. I served in border areas on several occasions and Francis Hughes was well known to us from our daily intelligence briefings and the photos we had of him. I can categorically state that there was no order in place to ignore Hughes had he been recognised at a VCP or Permanent Vechicle Check Point,(PVCP). In fact I've never heard of such an instruction in relation to any wanted terrorist in my 9 tours of duty in NI, I really have no idea where you got this from. Never happened I assure you.
    If he was missed at check points it was because he wasn't recognised, most of the photos we had were several years old and it's fairly easy to alter one's appearance sufficiently to fool a casual inspection. Think about it, how many wanted persons were actually caught by being identified at VCP's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMeyer View Post
    With all due respect I will have to take issue with this. I served in border areas on several occasions and Francis Hughes was well known to us from our daily intelligence briefings and the photos we had of him. I can categorically state that there was no order in place to ignore Hughes had he been recognised at a VCP or Permanent Vechicle Check Point,(PVCP). In fact I've never heard of such an instruction in relation to any wanted terrorist in my 9 tours of duty in NI, I really have no idea where you got this from. Never happened I assure you.
    If he was missed at check points it was because he wasn't recognised, most of the photos we had were several years old and it's fairly easy to alter one's appearance sufficiently to fool a casual inspection. Think about it, how many wanted persons were actually caught by being identified at VCP's?
    So your (pl) intelligence files were a crock of sh1te and operatives inoperable. Tell us something we don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMeyer View Post
    With all due respect I will have to take issue with this. I served in border areas on several occasions and Francis Hughes was well known to us from our daily intelligence briefings and the photos we had of him. I can categorically state that there was no order in place to ignore Hughes had he been recognised at a VCP or Permanent Vechicle Check Point,(PVCP). In fact I've never heard of such an instruction in relation to any wanted terrorist in my 9 tours of duty in NI, I really have no idea where you got this from. Never happened I assure you.
    If he was missed at check points it was because he wasn't recognised, most of the photos we had were several years old and it's fairly easy to alter one's appearance sufficiently to fool a casual inspection. Think about it, how many wanted persons were actually caught by being identified at VCP's?
    I didn't suggest that there was any order and only someone insane would think that any human would be so dangerous as to be ignored if surrounded by a heavily armed checkpoint. It is a different matter if a couple of local cops recognised him and thought better of attempting an arrest. That is all I was actually saying. Find it hard to understand why you would react so strongly to what is anecdotal recollection on my part whilst managing to ignore the rantings of Greasy on the same page, that would suggest no interest in any other point of view. I'd imagine that if you served along the border, Hughes would not have played a great part in your everyday life as it wasn't his stomping ground generally, far from it in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasytrucker View Post
    Sgt Oram was from an armoured reg, the SAS recruit from infantry regiments.
    No,you're wrong, they recruit throughout the armed forces, not just the Army and definitely not just the infantry. Lots of Engineers and R.Sigs for a start, and I've met former RAF Regt. and Royal Marines too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMeyer View Post
    No,you're wrong, they recruit throughout the armed forces, not just the Army and definitely not just the infantry. Lots of Engineers and R.Sigs for a start, and I've met former RAF Regt. and Royal Marines too.
    Well done. Now 5intheface, don't be giving out about Mainwaring not pulling Grassy Trucker up on something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabha Óir View Post
    So your (pl) intelligence files were a crock of sh1te and operatives inoperable. Tell us something we don't know.
    A stupid and self-serving conclusion but I'm sure you enjoyed posting it. But if our intelligence was so lousy and our operatives so poor, then how do you think we ran agents at the very top of the Provisional IRA for years on end(and Sinn Fein too, not to mention the so-called Loyalists) and eventually defeated it? I mean, who exactly is in control of NI at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabha Óir View Post
    Well done. Now 5intheface, don't be giving out about Mainwaring not pulling Grassy Trucker up on something
    And don't you be posting uninformed partisan sh*te, fair enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMeyer View Post
    A stupid and self-serving conclusion but I'm sure you enjoyed posting it. But if our intelligence was so lousy and our operatives so poor, then how do you think we ran agents at the very top of the Provisional IRA for years on end(and Sinn Fein too, not to mention the so-called Loyalists) and eventually defeated it? I mean, who exactly is in control of NI at the moment?
    As self sevring as anything you have come off with on this website where according to you the Brits can do no wrong. Remind me, who was first to the trigger that night on the Ranaghan Road?

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