PSNI now 26.14% catholic

[PaulMeyer]

The point being that the role of the RIC/RUC/PSNI has not changed in the intervening 90 years. If the religion of it's membership was irrelevant in 1919 then it remains irrelevant today. They continue to uphold British law in Ireland. I'm sure the people in Craigavon who had their doors smashed in last week thought it was ok because one in four of those doing it were probably Catholic.

Well the first role of any police force is always to "preserve the peace" so I guess we agree on your first point. As for it's membership's religious beliefs, again, I agree. As far as upholding British Law, well I'm with you there too, they uphold the law in a part of the United Kingdom and that law is undoubtedly and quite understandably British,whose else would it be?
How many people in Craigavon did you witness having their doors smashed in by the way? Any particular reason why they didn't just open the door and allow the Police to enter and execute the warrant as required by law?
Seems a strange thing to do, unless they had something to hide of course.

[MartinP]

Any particular reason why they didn't just open the door and allow the Police to enter and execute the warrant as required by law?
Seems a strange thing to do, unless they had something to hide of course.

Not everyone who believes their form of the law is illegitimate has necessarily broken it.

[factual]

I think most people find the 50-50 rule uncomfortable, as it imposes a religious test to who is employed in the six counties. However that will be removed once the Catholic % gets to 30% and that will be in 2 years at current rates of change.

[tiocfaidh]

How many people in Craigavon did you witness having their doors smashed in by the way? Any particular reason why they didn't just open the door and allow the Police to enter and execute the warrant as required by law?
Seems a strange thing to do, unless they had something to hide of course.

...or unless they were taking a stand in not standing idly by and watching the police go door to door raiding house after house. It is one thing if the police have specific good cause to raid a particular house. It is another if house after house is raided simply because they are in heavily republican areas. Agree?

[Glennshane]

I havn't given you anything. youve taken it. If you dont want it, grow a pair and start behaving like civilised adults.

Spare us the sermons. We are the victims of tyranny. You are not. You abandoned us in 1921 and stood idly bye in August 1969. You did not want to know us then so butt out now.

[greasytrucker]

I know some will say I have a double-standard for saying this, but the difference is that the RUC/PSNI has a history of being sectarian and discriminatory. As a result of its historically disgusting behaviour, it has a lot more work to do to clean up its image. It needs to do eveything it can to rid itself of all traces of sectarianism and religious bias. In addition, many of the Protestant icons you might have found would be clearly designed to incite hatred - King Billy portraits, OO sashes, etc. This is in contrast to the Catholic icons you cited above that you found in the Garda station in the ROI (e.g., Child or Prague statue). Those have nothing to do with the situation in the north, and are not anti-Protestant or lighting rods for conflict. Also, as DrBob1972 pointed out, the Garda do not clearly act out in an anti-Prod manner. It is a far more benign force, and as such they have far less work to do to make the other community comfortable with it. So I think your average non-Catholic in the ROI would have far less problem with seeing a status of the Virgin Mary in a Garda station than a Catholic would with seeing a King Billy portrait in a PSNI station, and for good reason.

That said, I think the Garda should be sensitive to the issue, and if complaints are raised they should be prepared to remove all religious icons from the stations (except for personal areas).

Protestants dont have icons. An icon is something you pray to muppet.
King Billy Pictures, sachs etc were never on display in Police stations in NI.

The fact there are 12 Protestants in the Garda and 20 in the army shows the gross hypocrisy of the republic, it is a sectarian state, which has always discriminated against Protesants civil rights from divorce to contraception to employment.

Its gross culture of hypocrisy is not unnoticed even if it is not often commented upon. The state which screamed for equality in the north does not apply the same rules to itself.

The republic is a dark place, the state where cops can get suspended sentences for sleeping with 14 yr old girls, but a 19 year old who slept with his 15 yr old girlfriend gets jail.

The place where travellers are jailed for shop lifting but which has wild west financial regulations.

The place where playboy magazine was illegal up until 10 yrs ago but the govt turned a blind eye to priests molesting children.

The state that cant afford vaccines for teenagers but where ministers fly around in lear jets.

[PaulMeyer]

...or unless they were taking a stand in not standing idly by and watching the police go door to door raiding house after house. It is one thing if the police have specific good cause to raid a particular house. It is another if house after house is raided simply because they are in heavily republican areas. Agree?

And what evidence do you have that this is what occurred? What evidence do you have to suggest that houses were searched simply because "they are in heavily republican areas" and not because the Police had good, legally sound reasons to do so? Did you perhaps attend the police briefing to the officers involved and make notes of their orders? Were you present perhaps, in a numbr of these houses and witnssed the Police failing explain their reasons for the search or produce the relevant documentation such as warrants or Section 18 search authorities?

I'm still waiting incidentally, for Moogie to back up his statement about doors being smashed in (unjustifiably that is) As always, I'm not holding my breath.

[blinding]

The quicker that 50:50 can be reached the better as far as I am concerned.

[hopi watcher]

Protestants dont have icons. An icon is something you pray to muppet.
King Billy Pictures, sachs etc were never on display in Police stations in NI.

The fact there are 12 Protestants in the Garda and 20 in the army shows the gross hypocrisy of the republic, it is a sectarian state, which has always discriminated against Protesants civil rights from divorce to contraception to employment.

Its gross culture of hypocrisy is not unnoticed even if it is not often commented upon. The state which screamed for equality in the north does not apply the same rules to itself.

The republic is a dark place, the state where cops can get suspended sentences for sleeping with 14 yr old girls, but a 19 year old who slept with his 15 yr old girlfriend gets jail.

The place where travellers are jailed for shop lifting but which has wild west financial regulations.

The place where playboy magazine was illegal up until 10 yrs ago but the govt turned a blind eye to priests molesting children.

The state that cant afford vaccines for teenagers but where ministers fly around in lear jets.

Do you ever leave the bunker? What is it like to have hate running through the very core of your being? An icon is not necessarily 'something' you prey to, it is an image, a representation.
Your selection of 'dark' secrets could be applied to any community in the world and indeed worse.Do you spend much time seeking out faults to justify your sectarianiam? Sad

[greasytrucker]

Do you ever leave the bunker? What is it like to have hate running through the very core of your being? An icon is not necessarily 'something' you prey to, it is an image, a representation.
Your selection of 'dark' secrets could be applied to any community in the world and indeed worse.Do you spend much time seeking out faults to justify your sectarianiam? Sad

So suggesting Protestants should get equal treatment in the republic is sectarianism and hate, your twisted republican agenda is obvious.