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So like the Real IRA were tricked into committing mass murder?
grrrrr
Seems to me the main lesson 'Republicans' must learn is the total tactical, strategic and moral bankruptcy of setting bombs in civilian areas. Or further, the use of the armed struggle in the post-GFA environment.
This is candyfloss - the creation of a vast edifice of a conspiracy which loops back so that MI5 and the British wind up as having co(?)-responsibility for Omagh. Which of course is the only reason an international enquiry is sought by 32CSM, because of a hope that some of the blame will stick to the British. You believe the worst of your opponents and the best of RIRA.
If warnings are given, which are generally non-specific, because after all those planting a bomb don't want to give too much away, it's not conspiracy if they're not relayed correctly. Was the car tracked by a US satellite? Do you know much about satellite surveillance? Do you know how it can be countered even unknowingly?
I don't know Bogwarrior, I admire your loyalty to your cause, but you remind me of Scottish monarchist, still unable to come to terms with the fact there won't be a restoration.
"I like you. You're all right. Actually, I like you better meeting you than if somebody had just given me your record."
Joey Ramone
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Two things stink about Omagh:
1 - The bombing
2 - Brian Cowen trying to negotiate a ceasefire in its aftermath.
Sure, MI5 were probably involved. Was our own government too?
Also, the Croat genneral the RIRA sheltered: had he any "Big War" influence on the RIRA? Urging them to follow Croat style ethnic clensing and political intimidation? Maybe he was the MI5 mole, as MI6 and MI5 as well as the CIA helped Croat sepratism in the former Yugosavia.
The Croats and Serbs are closer wthnically than the scots and the Irish, only differerence is religion.
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One Ireland, united and free,
To spite the Saxon, one day shall be,
Together Catholic, Diseenter and Prod will stand,
To break the connection with England!
Or perhaps the Croatian general was from the New World Order, and arrived in a black helicopter, leased from Area 51.
Meanwhile I don't think it's unlikely that certain members of RIRA were in fact Fine Gael moles who were actually also members of the reorganised IRB sent to restart Collins move on the North some 70 years later.
By the by certain elements inside 32CSM could also have been Zoraostrians, pretending to be Templers from the Priory of Sion.
Bill Clinton was almost cerrtainly directly involved. Probably he drove the car which the satellite saw. But I'd say Peter Mandelsohn was in the passenger seat with his former KGB controller on a mobile (purchased in Newry and effectively untraceable) giving him instructions from Lyndon La Rouche.
Behind him in the back was the Easter Bunny and a group of the fey folk from Rivendell.
Meanwhile in a truck close by was the entire membership of the Libertarianz from New Zealand who were ultimately in control of the operation, as a sort of violence as gesture politics stunt in order to prove the worth of Objectivism.
However...not half a mile away were their old enemies from the ACT party of New Zealand, who in concert with Bin Laden were....
"I like you. You're all right. Actually, I like you better meeting you than if somebody had just given me your record."
Joey Ramone
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Croat General had influence on both PIRA nad RIRA after they got arms from him. They sheltered him, as well as giving him a position of influence in the movements.
http://www.sundaylife.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=581882
He was known to disapprove of the "small war" tactics of the IRA, urging Croat style total urban attack and all out conflict.
Hence the suspicion over Omagh.
He was allowed run riot over the border... neither Gardai or RUC tried to catch him... symathising with Croatia as Serbia was an ally of Russia...
Maybe Ante Gotovina was the MI5 mole, as we know the CIA activly helped Croat sepratists before the Yugoslav civil wars...
And the CIA worked with MI5 with Rupert...
Maybe a tad far fetched... but who would have suspected Donaldson with his arm around Bobby Sands himself in Long Kesh?
Dev had it right: little nations should stay out of the affairs of the great. This alliance with the Croats could have backfired on us, as Omagh is worse than Bloody Sunday... its our Srebrenica.
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One Ireland, united and free,
To spite the Saxon, one day shall be,
Together Catholic, Diseenter and Prod will stand,
To break the connection with England!
You dare to defy the Bog's logic with a Sunday Life link? WTF has Croatia got to do with this thread. Have you read the initial post. Even the families are gobsmacked at the revelations, yet enlightened ones here prefer to parrot the lies they were told over 7 years ago.Originally Posted by teanganua
Read again. Michael Mansfield revealed in court, warnings given the exact location were not relayed. This is not what we were told originally. Why were'nt they relayed?
Just 1 gram of cocaine destroys 4m2 of tropical rainforest. Give it up ya selfish b'stards.
A 'republican' belives the sunday life?
The day will dawn when all the people of Ireland will have the desire for freedom to show.
It is then we'll see the rising of the moon.
Jesus mhate, read about what happened, listen to what the families are saying, look at the evidence, there's only one conclusion - a huge cover-up.
Who were the winners and losers in the Omagh bomb???
Answer that question and in my opinion you're on the right road.
One of the winners was the PIRA and SF. By your logic of "look who benefited by a load of dead civilians which created a backlash against dissidents" we must suspect SF of imvolvement and knowledge of this bombing.Jesus mhate, read about what happened, listen to what the families are saying, look at the evidence, there's only one conclusion - a huge cover-up.
Who were the winners and losers in the Omagh bomb???
Answer that question and in my opinion you're on the right road.
But that would be bollix. Im only pointing out where your argument is leading.
The RIRA was severly hampered by the Gardai. Yup, our very own boys in blue. They collared McKevitt, they collared Campbell.
As for British knowledge of this act, I mean come on. Republicans have slaughtered civilians in the past (look what Enniskillen and the Shankill bomb did to IRA support) but they survived. Why would the RIRA be any different? All they had to do was put the head down for 6 months, apologise, and they could well survive as an organisation. If I was an MI5 mandarin, Id say to myself, 'well a Republican atrocity could push the Loyalists to commit an atrocity, which would then lead to the PIRA ending the ceasefire'.
The RIRA ************************************ up on their own. Its their fault. Accept it.
The PIRA don't exist anymore so that's irrelevant.
SF lose out EVERY time something like this happens, guilty by association.
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