Youth charged with officer murder

[PaulMeyer]

Can anyone prove that this Catholic youth has not been tortured?

Is there any reason to suggest (apart from predictable republican paranoia and ignorance that is) that he has been tortured?.
Actually it would be possible to prove he hasn't been tortured. The cell complexes in all British police stations are under 24hr CCTV coverage and recordings are retained for many years (7, I think) after capture. All visits to cells are logged (investigation officers are not allowed into the prisoners cell)and interviews must be logged on the computerised detention record. It would take hours to explain all of the sageguards in place to prevent unlawful treatment of suspects but rest assured they exist and are taken very seriously indeed. All solicitors are fully aware of what is required and are not shy of pointing our any shortcomings. Anything which would suggest that interview evidence was not properly obtained would be subject to legal challenge and is likely to be thrown out by the court if found to be of dubious origin.

[Aindriu]

Not true. The PSNI rejected the demand that all interrogations be recorded. This whole case is a joke and a classic example of how bad so called 'british justice' is. It's a travesty and we are witnessing the destruction of a young life.
Monica Mc Williams has now confirmed that some of those being held have not even been interviewed in the past two days, yet they are held in detention.
The charade will now move to juryless courts to ensure the pouhnd of flesh can be extracted.

Complete BS! Under the terms of PACE the PSNI can do NO SUCH THING!!

You have more protection under interview in a UK police station than you do in a Garda station!!

[Trans-Siberian]

Wrong in fact, these improvements were introduced in the wake of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. Prior to that the rules governing suspects in custody, detention periods, conduct of interviews, admissability of evidence etc etc. were very much looser. Not because of any underhanded intent but simply because they had remained unchallenged for so long. As far as I know there is nothing similar to PACE in operation in the RoI though i'll stand corrected if there is.
As for your second point, are we to assume that no republican was EVER guilty of an offence over the past 40 years? You need to move beyond the propaganda you've obviously been spoon-fed throughout your life and look at objective fact. You might start by informing yourself about the legal system in NI and the rest of the UK for a start, then compare it to that of the rest of Europe.

Hey there paul, just clocked in at the embassy have you? God you realyy have a handy number!!

[hopi watcher]

Complete BS! Under the terms of PACE the PSNI can do NO SUCH THING!!

You have more protection under interview in a UK police station than you do in a Garda station!!

Oh! the family are fibbing, I forgot, 'british justice' is just mighty.

[Aindriu]

Oh! the family are fibbing, I forgot, 'british justice' is just mighty.

I was on about the refusal to tape the interviews moron. They cannot do that under the terms of PACE. It would immediately discredit any case they may have and the PPS would refuse to take it to trial. In the ROI we don't have the protection of interviews being recorded. We damn well should have!

The fact that they hadn't been interviewed for 2 days is a red herring. During that time you have no idea what evidence was being collated - forensics, statements etc. Interviews would be based on what the suspect had said before (if anything) and what new evidence had come to light since the last one.

[greasytrucker]

Youth charged with officer murder

A 17-year-old youth has been charged with the murder of Constable Stephen Carroll in County Armagh earlier this month.

Constable Carroll, 48, was shot dead as he answered a call for help in Craigavon on Monday 9 March.

The youth is also charged with having a firearm with intent to endanger life and membership of a proscribed organisation, the Continuity IRA.

He is to appear at Lisburn Magistrates Court on Tuesday morning.

The 17-year-old also faces a further charge of collecting information likely to be of use to terrorists.

BBC NEWS | Northern Ireland | Youth charged with officer murder

The leaders of Republican Sinn Fein are the same as the leaders of far right parties, they wind up kids to commit murders, then sit back and watch, making sure they never get their hands dirty themselves, absolute scum.

[hopi watcher]

I was on about the refusal to tape the interviews moron. They cannot do that under the terms of PACE. It would immediately discredit any case they may have and the PPS would refuse to take it to trial. In the ROI we don't have the protection of interviews being recorded. We damn well should have!

The fact that they hadn't been interviewed for 2 days is a red herring. During that time you have no idea what evidence was being collated - forensics, statements etc. Interviews would be based on what the suspect had said before (if anything) and what new evidence had come to light since the last one.

Wrong, under the conditions of P.A.C.E certain categories of detainees are exempted from any protection contained therein. Get a copy and read it. In addition there is no requirement that a detainee must/can have a third party present at all those times that a member of the police force is present.

[Aindriu]

Wrong, under the conditions of P.A.C.E certain categories of detainees are exempted from any protection contained therein. Get a copy and read it. In addition there is no requirement that a detainee must/can have a third party present at all those times that a member of the police force is present.

Just admit that you don't want anyone charged with these appalling murders

What kind of moronic brainwashing has a 17 year old received from his family that he feels the need to go out and commit murder should be a question that everyone should be asking.

IF he is guilty (which will be decided in a court of law) he deserves a natural life sentence.

[PaulMeyer]

Hey there paul, just clocked in at the embassy have you? God you realyy have a handy number!!

If you are saying that something I have written is factually wrong then please feel free to correct me. As for your Embassy jibe, it would be funny if it weren't for the fact that there are so many sad buggers out there who would actually believe it.

[eirigi87]

There is no way a 17 year old did went and killed a policeman.. He probably will be found guilty though and not because of a fair trial or anything that has already been decided cause they have to ake someone pay.

FFS Half of the 17 year olds in Dublin have guns are they going to be accused to