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Thread: Did Irish Unionist Intransigence create a vacuum for the gunmen to fill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    This is the most ridiculous thread I've seen on p.ie in 2009. Does anyone SERIOUSLY think tyhat the RIRA/CIRA pay any heed to what's happening with the Irish language act? These people are blinkered by their own hatred, what happpens in Stormont is irrelevant to them.
    On this issue you are as blinkered as the Unionists. People on the other side must take a step back and ask how does this complete unwillingness to countenance something as minor as an Irish Language act go down with the nationalist/republian community.

    This outright rejection is a sympton of the Unionist mindset.

    A doctor diagnoses the disease by observing the symptons.

    If we are honest some unionists are holding out for sack cloth and ashes from republicans. Those of us who live in the real world know that this is not going to happen.

    It is now time and has been for a long while, time to implement the GFA and to govern NI in an inclusive and egalitarian manner.

    The Unionists must be asked do they want to continue with the GFA and stop stalling and indeed trying to reverse it.

    If the Unionists want NI to continue in its present form I cannot understand why they cannot bring themselves to at least consider the wishes of the nationalist community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinding View Post
    Did the blocking of the Irish Language act and the blocking of Policing and justice powers create a vacuum that the gunman have chosen to fill with a return to the bad old days.
    I bet the cowards who carried out the murder can't speak a word of Irish. It was the moral vacuum within the RIRA that lead to the act of horrific violence at the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by collina View Post
    I bet the cowards who carried out the murder can't speak a word of Irish. It was the moral vacuum within the RIRA that lead to the act of horrific violence at the weekend.
    Cowards? I treally can't fathom how they are cowards whatever else you might call them
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacCoise View Post
    Cowards? I treally can't fathom how they are cowards whatever else you might call them
    Hardly surprising you're having trouble with it.

    When riddling Pizza delivery men from a car is a benchmark of heroism, there's a long way down to cowardice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    This is the most ridiculous thread I've seen on p.ie in 2009. Does anyone SERIOUSLY think tyhat the RIRA/CIRA pay any heed to what's happening with the Irish language act? These people are blinkered by their own hatred, what happpens in Stormont is irrelevant to them.
    You are missing the point . The named groups do not care about what happens in Stormount.
    However many observe that the Unionist Leadership still hold on to the preconception that
    a gain for the other community is a loss to their own. So eg money given to the Irish
    language is seen as money taken from Unionists.

    There has been considerable problems in interface areas with unorganized gangs of youths
    from both sides confronting each other on a regular basis. They often don't see any great changes in their lives and opportunities.

    So as incrementaly happens in Ulster history Unionist methods of persueing their own narrow agenda comes back to bight them on the ass.

    The frustrated young men are waiting for what appears to be a structured form of leadership that could be on offer from the above named groups or others. It is in the localized sense politics abhoring a vacumn.

    P.S I consider what happened on Saturday night to be trajic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cropbeye View Post
    You are missing the point . The named groups do not care about what happens in Stormount.
    However many observe that the Unionist Leadership still hold on to the preconception that
    a gain for the other community is a loss to their own. So eg money given to the Irish
    language is seen as money taken from Unionists.

    There has been considerable problems in interface areas with unorganized gangs of youths
    from both sides confronting each other on a regular basis. They often don't see any great changes in their lives and opportunities.

    So as incrementaly happens in Ulster history Unionist methods of persueing their own narrow agenda comes back to bight them on the ass.

    The frustrated young men are waiting for what appears to be a structured form of leadership that could be on offer from the above named groups or others. It is in the localized sense politics abhoring a vacumn.

    P.S I consider what happened on Saturday night to be trajic.
    I believe that you are on the right track there

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