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    United Ireland: A hypothetical.

    In the event of a successful referendum vote to unite the island once again, do we have a practical plan as to how exactly we go about doing it?

    The transistion would hardly just be as easy as the Brits saying, "Here you go, they're your problem now!"

    What do you think such a plan should consist of?
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    I can's see us changing our flag or our national anthem. Local authorities should today be more powerful so Unionist controlled councils in the North would be able to, for example, fly the British flag along with the Irish one.

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    If there was a vote right now would you want the North?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Allworthy View Post
    If there was a vote right now would you want the North?
    Who are you asking?

    Of course I would. There would be a transitional period though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Allworthy View Post
    If there was a vote right now would you want the North?
    That's not the issue.
    And I'm fairly sure that nationalism is still strong enough for a vote to go that way, yes.
    No more about it please.
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    Well, at least this time the question in blatant. But have you looked at the number of threads on this already? I'm sure you'll be able to find your answer in there somewhere.
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    [QUOTE=CelticAtheist;1287560]The transistion would hardly just be as easy as the Brits saying, "Here you go, they're your problem now!"[/QUOTE

    Why is n.ireland a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticAtheist View Post
    In the event of a successful referendum vote to unite the island once again, do we have a practical plan as to how exactly we go about doing it?

    The transistion would hardly just be as easy as the Brits saying, "Here you go, they're your problem now!"

    What do you think such a plan should consist of?

    The question doesn't arise, because a referendum in the Republic won't just be "do you want a United Ireland". Such a referendum would only happen after first the people of the North, as per the GFA, gave their consent, and then a negotiation process between the Northern parties and the two governments produced a package which actually specified what form that United Ireland would take. That would include constitutional issues, administrative issues, representation issues, and of course all the ceremonial stuff like flags, anthems, languages, public holidays, etc. When that entire package was agreed, (a bit like the GFA process), it would be put before the people.

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    It would be a slow, almost snail-like transition. Sinn Fein's recognition of the Dail is an illustration that there wouldn't be an entirely new state, just absorption into the Republic. The Republic itself would amend its Constitution. I imagine preferential representation in the Dail would be one quid pro quo. I think a new flag would be almost inevitable. I like the idea of the Presidential Flag being adopted, gold harp on blue background. None of which is going to happen for decades anyway, if at all. Nor will it matter a jot, the EU holding ever-increasing sovereignty...

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    So where do you start? Merging the benifit systems or the northern Civil Service?

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