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    Huge Dissatisfaction with PSNI

    Only 1 in 8 in new survey (in Nationalist Belfast) think that the PSNI are doing a "good" job.

    What is the PSNI going to do about this? These are damning stats.

    Belfast survey finds dissatisfaction with PSNI - The Irish Times - Fri, Oct 24, 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysands81 View Post
    Only 1 in 8 in new survey (in Nationalist Belfast) think that the PSNI are doing a "good" job.

    What is the PSNI going to do about this? These are damning stats.

    Belfast survey finds dissatisfaction with PSNI - The Irish Times - Fri, Oct 24, 2008
    Those figures are a disgrace.Whats needed is more local accountability.
    Is there any political party pushing for more local accountability in the near future?

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    Bobby all i can say if you were to do the same survey in a protestant area i think you'd find the same results.


    We need more police on the streets - response times are poor something i brought up at a DPP meeting !!

    But could i add the Courts have played a part in this as well - giving bail to wee scumbags who should be held until trial - also jail terms that don't even fit the crime !!

    So yes i think the PSNI do need to do more - but i think the Courts and the Judges need reformed !!
    [size=+2]Time for change !![/size]

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    I can see this in 2 ways:
    1/ The PSNI are still very wary of the nationalist community's attitude towards them and are also wary of dissident attack (this is evidenced by the fact that nationalist areas are still patrolled in Hotspur Landrovers).
    2/ The nationalist community are still wary of the PSNI and some are also still antagonistic towards them.

    These differences are not going to be resolved overnight. My guess it that it will be at least a generation before they are.

    Both the PSNI & the nationalist community need to try very hard to build bridges. SF need to be extremely instrumental in this. At the moment I feel SF are just paying lip service to the idea.
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    Part of the problem is drug dealers and joy riders in Nationalist areas are paid informers of the PSNI.

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    Look politics aside, the PSNI are incredibly useless.
    I could give a list of shocking events that ive witnessed alone where the police either dont bother turning up or they fail to do anything afterwards.
    People i know from all sides of the community just think theyre a pack of sponging civil servants who avoid every incident and sit on their arse to payday.

    They dont care, they are incapable of doing anything and that is the general opinion from all communities here.
    I'm surprised 1 in 8 said they thought they were capable, these people probobly never had to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve View Post
    Look politics aside, the PSNI are incredibly useless.
    I could give a list of shocking events that ive witnessed alone where the police either dont bother turning up or they fail to do anything afterwards.
    People i know from all sides of the community just think theyre a pack of sponging civil servants who avoid every incident and sit on their arse to payday.
    Calling them 'police' is using the word very lightly.
    They dont care, they are incapable of doing anything and that is the general opinion from all communities here.
    I'm surprised 1 in 8 said they thought they were capable, these people probobly never had to use them.
    Think for a minute how you would feel if you were a PSNI officer and were called to a violent incident in a nationalist area. You know the community hate you. You know the dissidents have tried to kill officers recently and you know there are still guns and explosives out there. Well?
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    This isnt just the opinion in Belfast, infact whenever ive been to Belfast i actually see police on the streets and they do police the areas.
    The police outside of Belfast are a lot worse, and you rarely see them outside of their cars.

    I watched two gangs fight eachother outside my house the other day (which i am now leaving after only 7 months) in Lurgan, 2 were stabbed.
    I phoned the police as i watched them chase eachother around with baseball bats high on alcohal and god knows what else.
    They never turned up.

    In another recent event i know a cleaner who was looking out the window of an office and saw someone lying in a hedge face down.
    She phoned the police as she didnt know if the person was alive or dead.
    3 hours later when she was going home they still hadnt turned up.

    My G/F works infront of a police station and she had to phone them as a drunk was threatening her and wouldnt leave the shop at closing time, they wouldnt even cross the road to kick him out.
    I had to drive 5 miles into town to do it.

    I could go on and on...
    Chief Wigam would do a better job here.

    Trust me, theyre useless.
    Calling them a police force is using the word 'police' very loosly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve View Post
    Look politics aside, the PSNI are incredibly useless.
    I could give a list of shocking events that ive witnessed alone where the police either dont bother turning up or they fail to do anything afterwards.
    Maybe they don't have sufficient resources. Would you pay higher taxes for a better-resourced police service? (Oh, hang on, you're subsidised by London, so the question isn't that relevant. But would you?)

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    Better resourced?
    They can fly helicopters over an area if someone drops a cigarette butt, drive tank-like landrovers and bomb proof cars.
    Theyre armed to the teeth etc.

    If theyre afraid to break up a drunken fight then they should call themselves police.

    Look, im not a 'dissident' i have no political problems with the police, i have used them many times and never once have they managed to convict anyone of anything.
    I just think they have a long way to go, i do believe that the police need to work with communities to be effective.
    At the minute they are disconnected to the people.
    Devolution of policing could help solve huge problems in the north, a disconnected police force is useless.
    The DUP might say people dont care about policing because Wall street crashed etc. but its nonsence.
    Nationalists deserve policing powers and safety as much as any unionist, but change has always been a scarey monster to the DUP.
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