Federal Ireland thread

[DLR]

People often talk of a "4 provinces" model when referring to a future federal united Ireland (usually with a far away gaze and quivering lip.) But how workable would a simple 2-component model be, comprising the north and the south? Not just a devolved Stormont answerable to the Dail, but both parliaments answerable to a Fereral government. I mean, in terms of population, votes, govt seats etc. Is it possible in theory at least? Obviously this is more a hypothetical thread than anything else. If NI went for it, the new state would undoubtedly have support and backing from GB, the EU and the US. So it would be difficult to see it not working.

[blinding]

Something along these lines will eventually come to pass but when is the $64,000 dollar question.(if thats enough money these days, mind you with the recession!)

[Aggressor]

I like the thought but....

[st333ve]

Well we have had this...




..So anything's possible!

[R Paul]

If NI went for it,

"If" is kind of critical in your post. To date, there isn't a whole lot of indication that we have ever gone near to going from "If" to "When".

The RoI is an extremely centralised state. Most Government services are delivered by centralised Government Departments, which in turn are answerable to the central Government. This results in an enfeebled local Government instead of it being the first place local people should look to solve the problems their communities face.

Were the RoI to reform Governmental structures of its own volition so that it operated as a federal system, then there might be some credibility in suggesting a Federal Ireland as a possible UI solution so that it didn't result (for Unionists) in "domination by Dublin". In the meantime, I doubt most people would take the concept seriously.

[Cael]

People often talk of a "4 provinces" model when referring to a future federal united Ireland (usually with a far away gaze and quivering lip.) But how workable would a simple 2-component model be, comprising the north and the south? Not just a devolved Stormont answerable to the Dail, but both parliaments answerable to a Fereral government. I mean, in terms of population, votes, govt seats etc. Is it possible in theory at least? Obviously this is more a hypothetical thread than anything else. If NI went for it, the new state would undoubtedly have support and backing from GB, the EU and the US. So it would be difficult to see it not working.

Neither Stormont or Leinster House have any place in a 32 County Federal Socialist Republic, as set out in Sinn Féin's Éire Nua document. Both of these British colonial impositions are the problem, they cannot be part of the solution.

[cgcsb]

Ceal, pull your head out of your arse. In case You haven't notice Sinn Fein only have a handful of seats in the Dail and are in no position to impliment their "Nua Eire" plan. Obviously due to the Irish voters position on the GFA, they are not interested in your brand of violent extremist republicanism