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    40th Anniversary of 1st Civil Rights march

    Today is the 40th anniversary of the very first march for civil rights in the north. I wonder what peoples' thoughts are about it all on this day?
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    Re: 40th Anniversary of 1st Civil Rights march

    Should have happened 40 years earlier. And the Irish government should have given it much more active backing. Then, perhaps, the subsequent repression of the Civil Rights movement and the war that followed, may have been avoided.
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    Re: 40th Anniversary of 1st Civil Rights march

    Tiocfaidh Ar La.

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    I believe that this anniversary should have been given much more coverage than it has.The beginning of the civil rights movement was one of the most significant events in Ireland in the twentieth century.All Irish people have a debt of grattitude to pay to these people who were willing to stand up and say that they were not prepared to accept that every thing had to be done in the same old way by the same old establishment.

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    Re: 40th Anniversary of 1st Civil Rights march

    Quote Originally Posted by tiocfaidh
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    Read your history - NICRA was an organisation made up of Catholics, Protestants, people of other religions and of no religion who went out and campaigned peacefully for civil rights - not a triumphalist victory over "the other side". In two short years they achieved more than the Tiocaís achieved with 35 years of sectarian murder (only to become part of the establishment they claimed they were out to smash and sup with their enemy).

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    Apparently the DUP are going to dress up as B Specials and baton random nationalists into the stomach to commemorate it.
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    Re: 40th Anniversary of 1st Civil Rights march

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiocfaidh
    Tiocfaidh Ar La.
    Read your history - NICRA was an organisation made up of Catholics, Protestants, people of other religions and of no religion who went out and campaigned peacefully for civil rights - not a triumphalist victory over "the other side". In two short years they achieved more than the Tiocaís achieved with 35 years of sectarian murder (only to become part of the establishment they claimed they were out to smash and sup with their enemy).
    The NICRA might have been an organisation made up of people of various religions, but it is slightly dishonest to suggest that apart from a few token protestants those who took to the streets to campaign for civil rights against "the other side" were anything other than Catholics. I am uncomfortable with the idea that this peaceful civil rights movement did not know there was going to be violence and did they simply wash their hands of it when it happened. Was it a case of educated people using ordinary people to champion their cause and then blaming them for everything that went wrong. The reality is I do not think the british government would have reacted so quickly only for the fact that there was violence.

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    Lia Fail,

    It was a lot more than a few token protestants. You can find protestants in leading positions NICRA, the organisations in Derry, People's Democracy (in its early stages). Right across the spectrum. NICRA usually talked about non-unionists rather than Catholics or nationalists as it was well aware of the complexity of the situation, unlike many today.

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    Re: 40th Anniversary of 1st Civil Rights march

    Quote Originally Posted by Lia Fail
    I am uncomfortable with the idea that this peaceful civil rights movement did not know there was going to be violence and did they simply wash their hands of it when it happened. Was it a case of educated people using ordinary people to champion their cause and then blaming them for everything that went wrong. The reality is I do not think the british government would have reacted so quickly only for the fact that there was violence.
    Firstly the Civil Rights movement did achieve much, even before the Provo campaign began in earnest.

    The notorious "Londonderry County Borough" - the gerrymandered council was abolished even before the Provos were founded.

    The abolition of the B-Specials, disarming of the RUC and end to the rest of the gerrymandered local councils took place in 1970, along with major reform in housing and employment access. Not one bullet achieved any of this.

    This idea that the Civil Rights Association somehow unleashed the violence simply goes to prove nationalist hostility towards NICRA -the Provos were against it at the time, they weren't interested in civil rights, only triumphing over the other side.

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    Re: 40th Anniversary of 1st Civil Rights march

    Marches
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