Stun gun used for first time in the North of Ireland

[The OD]

From the BBC:

Here

I'm pretty alarmed at this - I can see why it was used, their were two young children locked into a house with their father and whilst I have no other details, the first thing that sprung to mind were cases in recent years when parents killed their own children. If it saved the kids, perhaps an argument might be made on this ground and perhaps an argument could be made that it was better than shooting the man. My problem I suppose, is their use on a larger scale and with abandon.

I've watched numerous clips of people being tazored and one common factor was that usually the person was hit several times with a burst after being told to stay still - ahem, stay still after getting a couple of thousand volts through you? Also, it seems a lot of those who use them seem to be fully of the belief that they are 'safe' when its clear they are not. In a situation like this (presuming there was evidence the man was a clear threat to the children) I would have difficulty arguing over their use instead of a sniper rifle, but my concerns remain.

Comments?

[múscailte]

From the BBC:

Here

I'm pretty alarmed at this - I can see why it was used, their were two young children locked into a house with their father and whilst I have no other details, the first thing that sprung to mind were cases in recent years when parents killed their own children. If it saved the kids, perhaps an argument might be made on this ground and perhaps an argument could be made that it was better than shooting the man. My problem I suppose, is their use on a larger scale and with abandon.

I've watched numerous clips of people being tazored and one common factor was that usually the person was hit several times with a burst after being told to stay still - ahem, stay still after getting a couple of thousand volts through you? Also, it seems a lot of those who use them seem to be fully of the belief that they are 'safe' when its clear they are not. In a situation like this (presuming there was evidence the man was a clear threat to the children) I would have difficulty arguing over their use instead of a sniper rifle, but my concerns remain.

Comments?

The first person in OSC to be tazored is a Nationalist, quelle suprise. One would assume he had opened the door in order to be tazored, they hardly tozered him down the chimney. Well, that's it anyway, the ice is broken; let the totalitarian taig-tazoring commence

[Aindriu]

[quote=múscailte]

From the BBC:

Here

I'm pretty alarmed at this - I can see why it was used, their were two young children locked into a house with their father and whilst I have no other details, the first thing that sprung to mind were cases in recent years when parents killed their own children. If it saved the kids, perhaps an argument might be made on this ground and perhaps an argument could be made that it was better than shooting the man. My problem I suppose, is their use on a larger scale and with abandon.

I've watched numerous clips of people being tazored and one common factor was that usually the person was hit several times with a burst after being told to stay still - ahem, stay still after getting a couple of thousand volts through you? Also, it seems a lot of those who use them seem to be fully of the belief that they are 'safe' when its clear they are not. In a situation like this (presuming there was evidence the man was a clear threat to the children) I would have difficulty arguing over their use instead of a sniper rifle, but my concerns remain.

Comments?

The first person in OSC to be tazored is a Nationalist, quelle suprise. One would assume he had opened the door in order to be tazored, they hardly tozered him down the chimney. Well, that's it anyway, the ice is broken; let the totalitarian taig-tazoring commence[/quote:kmpfx9tq]
What you have posted if it had been anyone other than a nationalist I wonder? Perhaps you would have preferred it if he had been shot dead?

[múscailte]

What you have posted if it had been anyone other than a nationalist I wonder? Perhaps you would have preferred it if he had been shot dead?

No I'd have preferred to have seen something other than the typically heavy-handed PSSRUCNI approach to 'dealing with taigs'. Wait til you see how many tazorings there are now they have the first one out of the way, my money is on them being as unidirectional as plastic bullets.

[infamous-el-guapo]

[quote=Aindriu]

From the BBC:

Here

I'm pretty alarmed at this - I can see why it was used, their were two young children locked into a house with their father and whilst I have no other details, the first thing that sprung to mind were cases in recent years when parents killed their own children. If it saved the kids, perhaps an argument might be made on this ground and perhaps an argument could be made that it was better than shooting the man. My problem I suppose, is their use on a larger scale and with abandon.

I've watched numerous clips of people being tazored and one common factor was that usually the person was hit several times with a burst after being told to stay still - ahem, stay still after getting a couple of thousand volts through you? Also, it seems a lot of those who use them seem to be fully of the belief that they are 'safe' when its clear they are not. In a situation like this (presuming there was evidence the man was a clear threat to the children) I would have difficulty arguing over their use instead of a sniper rifle, but my concerns remain.

Comments?

The first person in OSC to be tazored is a Nationalist, quelle suprise. One would assume he had opened the door in order to be tazored, they hardly tozered him down the chimney. Well, that's it anyway, the ice is broken; let the totalitarian taig-tazoring commence

What you have posted if it had been anyone other than a nationalist I wonder? Perhaps you would have preferred it if he had been shot dead?[/quote:2bwa3fed]

First of all, it's TASER (Thomas A Swift Electrical Rifle)

Also, he could have been shot dead with the TASER, it is a potentially lethal weapon.

The TASER is a weapon of torture designed to subdue the victim through the use of pain and should be illegal.

[zakalwe]

What you have posted if it had been anyone other than a nationalist I wonder? Perhaps you would have preferred it if he had been shot dead?

No I'd have preferred to have seen something other than the typically heavy-handed PSSRUCNI approach to 'dealing with taigs'. Wait til you see how many tazorings there are now they have the first one out of the way, my money is on them being as unidirectional as plastic bullets.

is the second S a typo?

[zakalwe]

[quote=infamous-el-guapo][quote=Aindriu]

From the BBC:

Here

I'm pretty alarmed at this - I can see why it was used, their were two young children locked into a house with their father and whilst I have no other details, the first thing that sprung to mind were cases in recent years when parents killed their own children. If it saved the kids, perhaps an argument might be made on this ground and perhaps an argument could be made that it was better than shooting the man. My problem I suppose, is their use on a larger scale and with abandon.

I've watched numerous clips of people being tazored and one common factor was that usually the person was hit several times with a burst after being told to stay still - ahem, stay still after getting a couple of thousand volts through you? Also, it seems a lot of those who use them seem to be fully of the belief that they are 'safe' when its clear they are not. In a situation like this (presuming there was evidence the man was a clear threat to the children) I would have difficulty arguing over their use instead of a sniper rifle, but my concerns remain.

Comments?

The first person in OSC to be tazored is a Nationalist, quelle suprise. One would assume he had opened the door in order to be tazored, they hardly tozered him down the chimney. Well, that's it anyway, the ice is broken; let the totalitarian taig-tazoring commence

What you have posted if it had been anyone other than a nationalist I wonder? Perhaps you would have preferred it if he had been shot dead?[/quote:14ab3n9j]

First of all, it's TASER (Thomas A Swift Electrical Rifle)

Also, he could have been shot dead with the TASER, it is a potentially lethal weapon.

The TASER is a weapon of torture designed to subdue the victim through the use of pain and should be illegal.[/quote:14ab3n9j]

ffs, its a non-lethal device. potentially peanuts are lethal!

[zakalwe]

[quote=zakalwe][quote=infamous-el-guapo]

From the BBC:

Here

I'm pretty alarmed at this - I can see why it was used, their were two young children locked into a house with their father and whilst I have no other details, the first thing that sprung to mind were cases in recent years when parents killed their own children. If it saved the kids, perhaps an argument might be made on this ground and perhaps an argument could be made that it was better than shooting the man. My problem I suppose, is their use on a larger scale and with abandon.

I've watched numerous clips of people being tazored and one common factor was that usually the person was hit several times with a burst after being told to stay still - ahem, stay still after getting a couple of thousand volts through you? Also, it seems a lot of those who use them seem to be fully of the belief that they are 'safe' when its clear they are not. In a situation like this (presuming there was evidence the man was a clear threat to the children) I would have difficulty arguing over their use instead of a sniper rifle, but my concerns remain.

Comments?

The first person in OSC to be tazored is a Nationalist, quelle suprise. One would assume he had opened the door in order to be tazored, they hardly tozered him down the chimney. Well, that's it anyway, the ice is broken; let the totalitarian taig-tazoring commence

What you have posted if it had been anyone other than a nationalist I wonder? Perhaps you would have preferred it if he had been shot dead?

First of all, it's TASER (Thomas A Swift Electrical Rifle)

Also, he could have been shot dead with the TASER, it is a potentially lethal weapon.

The TASER is a weapon of torture designed to subdue the victim through the use of pain and should be illegal.[/quote:1zxe6hoq]

ffs, its a non-lethal device. potentially peanuts are lethal!
do you think officers who eat peanuts and don't wash their hands should be illegal?
[/quote:1zxe6hoq]

[Bacon-Egg]

see, I know im prob gonna get jumped on for saying this...BUT......if used correctly a Taser could be used to bring a header down quickly, and without MUCH danger. I accept there have been deaths and injuries by these being used, but, I dont know, Its just my thoughts. I suppose I've never really thought about it much, I'll keep an eye on this discussion and see what comes from it I suppose

[Aindriu]

What you have posted if it had been anyone other than a nationalist I wonder? Perhaps you would have preferred it if he had been shot dead?

No I'd have preferred to have seen something other than the typically heavy-handed PSSRUCNI approach to 'dealing with taigs'. Wait til you see how many tazorings there are now they have the first one out of the way, my money is on them being as unidirectional as plastic bullets.

Given the number of foreign recruits to the PSNI (including quite a few Catholic Poles) do you still think they are that biased?