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    The restoration of the island integrity ?

    I'm not sure this topic will be at the right place, so excuse-me if it is'nt. I think it's a "current affair" for the irish island in general ...
    I'm wondering ... even if history is the way it is, the north of the territory is part of the Ireland island, and, in my french opinion, i have the feeling that it would be normal that, one day, the integrity of the territory shall be restored.

    But i'm a stranger, and i never heard much to be honest, about how things are considered, in the Republic of Ireland, and in Northern Ireland ?

    If there was a referendum about the reintegration of the northern region, in the Republic, i guess most people would vote " Yes ", or am i wrong ? Do some estimations exist about the same referendum in Northern Ireland ? What do the politics in Eira and Northern Ireland do with the situation ? Is there a true will on both parts of the " border " in the island to reach a solution ?

    Do you think in the present century, the integrity of the island will be restored ?

    Thanks for the informations you can bring me because it simply interrests me.

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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Get lost frog spawn , we believe in the integrity of the ballot box ici, capiche?

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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    There will be re-unification one day, perhaps later in the century, perhaps not, but it won't matter by then, we will all be vassals of the great Euro-Empire. The Republic won't vote for it until they are sure there's no trouble in it for them afterwards, they certainly wouldn't vote for it at the moment, while the Northern Catholics might not be 100% in favour themselves, given our appalling health services, seeing as they get everything free there. I'd love to see it happen, but I suspect I never will.

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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Eira go away wud ya

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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb
    Get lost frog spawn , we believe in the integrity of the ballot box ici, capiche?
    I'm not sure to understand what you mean ?

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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spear
    If there was a referendum about the reintegration of the northern region, in the Republic, i guess most people would vote " Yes ", or am i wrong ? Do some estimations exist about the same referendum in Northern Ireland ? What do the politics in Eira and Northern Ireland do with the situation ? Is there a true will on both parts of the " border " in the island to reach a solution ?

    Do you think in the present century, the integrity of the island will be restored ?

    Thanks for the informations you can bring me because it simply interrests me.
    If there was a referendum in the Republic then it would probably be passed. In Northern Ireland it would fail, as the Unionists still have a slight majority.

    Will the country ever be unified? Its highly likely at some stage, but not soon.
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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb
    Get lost frog spawn , we believe in the integrity of the ballot box ici, capiche?


    Fair play to you Bobb. You got three languages in there, and you're an ignorant pig in all of them.
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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Does anyone else feel that reunification could represent an invitation to Britain to once again have direct influence in our affairs in some way? When we signed the Treaty (haha - the other one) and the island was partitioned - we cut out a segment of our population which had been profoundly disloyal to the cause of Irish freedom for centuries - this community was the tool used to divide the country along religious lines and create a long term religion based-psychosis in Ireland (the British masters ruled through a complicit Catholic hierarchy AND the hardline Protestant Williamites). Partition made possible our uninterrupted stability since that time and in hindsight was the best solution for everyone except Catholic nationalists in the North, it also guaranteed the integrity of the spirit of our independence - for example De Valera was able to engage in an economic war with Britain and tell Churchill were to go on the neutrality question during WW2 - he would not have been free to do so had there been 1 million folk who feel British residing in a an all-island state - Churchill could have again fallen back on supporting the Loyalists and used them in some way with his own forces to ensure De Valera's cooperation. What other decisions taken by the Irish government might have been vetoed along the way according to Britain putting it's foot down and using the Unionists as a lever?

    However, owing to our history with Britain we tend to be paranoid about 'them' having any control over us - but the EU is making around 80% of the laws that govern us now - which is kind of surreal. At least they aren't taking all our food or shipping us to another continent to fulfill a labour shortage... Last time i looked they are also respecting the right of Irish to speak their language - in act honouring it as an official language of the EU. It's a cuddly touchy feely kind of colonialism isn't it? Strange too that we are the only ones where the people can actually put their hands up and say 'no further down this road', it was a reaction to a long term foreign occupation that brewed the Crotty judgement, it's a strange kind of irony for a people with such a history as we do to be in this position - from being the only truly colonised people in Europe to being in a position to 'decide' the fate of the rest of them.

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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spear
    I'm not sure this topic will be at the right place, so excuse-me if it is'nt. I think it's a "current affair" for the irish island in general ...
    I'm wondering ... even if history is the way it is, the north of the territory is part of the Ireland island, and, in my french opinion, i have the feeling that it would be normal that, one day, the integrity of the territory shall be restored.

    But i'm a stranger, and i never heard much to be honest, about how things are considered, in the Republic of Ireland, and in Northern Ireland ?

    If there was a referendum about the reintegration of the northern region, in the Republic, i guess most people would vote " Yes ", or am i wrong ? Do some estimations exist about the same referendum in Northern Ireland ? What do the politics in Eira and Northern Ireland do with the situation ? Is there a true will on both parts of the " border " in the island to reach a solution ?

    Do you think in the present century, the integrity of the island will be restored ?

    Thanks for the informations you can bring me because it simply interrests me.

    The term "island" is just used by crypto partitionists, because the dont want to refer to Ireland as a nation.

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    Re: The restoration of the island integrity ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cael
    The term "island" is just used by crypto partitionists, because the dont want to refer to Ireland as a nation.
    Of course, that's not what i meant. I was thinking in terms of " territory integrity ".

    It always gives me the feeling of something going wrong when i watch Ireland map and i see a border in the north, as something that should not be there.

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