Irish Recruitment to British Army doubles

[louis bernard]

ya planting incendiary devices in shops and kneecapping young hoods is much more noble.

OR PERHAPS FIREBOMBING IRAQIS FROM RAF PLANES IS MORE NOBLE?

No one firebombs Iraqis from planes, stop your hysteria.

The invaders in Iraq have used napalm and white phosphorous on residential areas in Iraq. Civilians in the area were not forewarned and suffered the bulk of the casualties. Not that the invaders give a ********* *********.
Yet native Irishmen planting a few incendiaries in an empty building at 3 in the morning (in their own country)are deemed terrorists.
The type of Irishman who joins the B.A is like the nerdy kid who tries to suck up to the school bully and hits small kids to gain approval from the bully. I know of several Northern Catholics who joined up years ago and cant return now for their shame. Rightly disowned by their friends and families they live a pathetic existence, unable to attend even family funerals (mostly because they cant look people in the eye). One rung up the ladder from the lowly informer.

You are not only a bore, you are inarticulate.

[merle haggard]

Why all the aurgument?
There has always been massive recruitmeent of Irishmen into the British army.
The above article just shows that normal service has been resumed.

205 of the Black% Tans were born, bred abd recruited in southern Ireland.

Among the regiments used to put down 1916 were:
The South Irish horse
Dublin fusiliers
Royal Irish Rangers

In 1798, the British had 30,000 men under arms in Ireland; only 10,000 were soldiers of the regular army (many of whom were Irish catholics anyway. Another 10,000 were yeomen, predominantly Irish protestants, and the remaining 10,000 were the militia...Irish catholics.

During the famine, one third of the British army were Irishmen. So, basically, while the British were evicting Irish peasants from their thatched cotttages, Irishmen in red coats were doing the same thing in India etc.

Face facts: all the British have ever done is take avantage of our stupidity, shocking disunity and short-term thinking.

firstly there was no famine in Ireland , secondly the vast majority of evictions during the 1840s holocaust were physically carried out by the RIC .99% Irish . A large proportion of which were not only catholic but gaelic speaking

[Bogwarrior]

oof...lots of typos there...that should read: 20% of the Tans were southern Irishmen.

But at the time Ireland was part of the Empire, had red letter-boxes and had towns named after British royals.
It was as Scotland is now.
However for someone from Dublin 90 years after winning (partial)Independence to contemplate joining the British Army makes no sense to me whatsoever, particularly after the B.A has treated fellow Irishmen in the 6 counties in living memory.
There is an element of eletism in that these guys innocently think only the B.A can cater for their superior soldiering skills.
Truth is the standard of soldiering in the B.A is at an all time low. With the bar being lowered on recruitment entry as in pyshical fitness etc making it easier to recruit . This is due to less recruits coming forward.

[joel]

[quote="Q.F. Maximus"]Why all the aurgument?
There has always been massive recruitmeent of Irishmen into the British army.
The above article just shows that normal service has been resumed.

205 of the Black% Tans were born, bred abd recruited in southern Ireland.

Among the regiments used to put down 1916 were:
The South Irish horse
Dublin fusiliers
Royal Irish Rangers

In 1798, the British had 30,000 men under arms in Ireland; only 10,000 were soldiers of the regular army (many of whom were Irish catholics anyway. Another 10,000 were yeomen, predominantly Irish protestants, and the remaining 10,000 were the militia...Irish catholics.


Hitler did the same in the countries he overan. Ever heard of Quisling?

When a people has no hope, they get by as best they can. If they rebelled they'd be classified as natural rebels and terrible retribution visited on the population. And the Nazis were the same.

[Kalif]

ya planting incendiary devices in shops and kneecapping young hoods is much more noble.

OR PERHAPS FIREBOMBING IRAQIS FROM RAF PLANES IS MORE NOBLE?

No one firebombs Iraqis from planes, stop your hysteria.

The invaders in Iraq have used napalm and white phosphorous on residential areas in Iraq. Civilians in the area were not forewarned and suffered the bulk of the casualties. Not that the invaders give a ********* *********.
Yet native Irishmen planting a few incendiaries in an empty building at 3 in the morning (in their own country)are deemed terrorists.
The type of Irishman who joins the B.A is like the nerdy kid who tries to suck up to the school bully and hits small kids to gain approval from the bully. I know of several Northern Catholics who joined up years ago and cant return now for their shame. Rightly disowned by their friends and families they live a pathetic existence, unable to attend even family funerals (mostly because they cant look people in the eye). One rung up the ladder from the lowly informer.

Repeat, the RAF has not used napalm in Iraq, the posters claim.

As for WP in Falluja residents had ample time to evacutate.

WP is not illegal if used as in illuminous shells.


Quote :

"Yet native Irishmen planting a few incendiaries in an empty building at 3 in the morning (in their own country)are deemed terrorists."

...................Is that all the PIRA did, and there was me thinking they used napalm at the Le Mon hotel against civilians.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Kalif]

oof...lots of typos there...that should read: 20% of the Tans were southern Irishmen.

But at the time Ireland was part of the Empire, had red letter-boxes and had towns named after British royals.
It was as Scotland is now.
However for someone from Dublin 90 years after winning (partial)Independence to contemplate joining the British Army makes no sense to me whatsoever, particularly after the B.A has treated fellow Irishmen in the 6 counties in living memory.
There is an element of eletism in that these guys innocently think only the B.A can cater for their superior soldiering skills.
Truth is the standard of soldiering in the B.A is at an all time low. With the bar being lowered on recruitment entry as in pyshical fitness etc making it easier to recruit . This is due to less recruits coming forward.

Shows how much you know, British soldiers are more experienced and battle hardened then they have been for decades, from your perspective lucky the conflict has ended.

The BFT/CFT fitness tests have not been lowered.

The standards of the British infantry soldier still remain the most professional of any army.

[DaBrow]

Its sickening but so a lot of Irish join the US army which is just as bad.

I'd rather see an Irishman in a US Army Uniform than a British one!

Then you're a stinking hypocrite.

I think not CelticAthiest!

Considering that if the Union Army in the US Civil War didn't recruit us in mass numbers......... the US would still have slavery.

A lot of these Irishmen then when on and used their skills for the 1867 Fenian Rising.

How is what I said hyprocritical? How would an Irishman in the US Army (Who gave them something in return, considering alot of the greatest soldiers ever in the US Military were Irish-born/ Irish Descent) be the same as an Irishman serving in the army of the nation that oppressed them?

When did the US Army invade Ireland and make her a colony or some off-shore commonwealth protectorate like Puerto Rico?

Last I checked was never!

The US is an Imperial power.
They're effectively doing the same thing that the Brits did, within a modern context.

And the Union states' population was massively larger than the Confederacy, and only 9% of the Union army was made up of Irishmen.
Stop exaggerating our importance.

I stand by comments.

There was more hope in America for the Irish than there ever was or will be in Britain....... that's for certain.

9% of the Union Army being Irish? Well without that number the war would have lasted probably 33% longer and more people would have died.

Finally to mention; America doesn't hold executive rule over each country's government in each nation that they are fighting in......... Britain ruled all their colonies from westminster and flew her flag over those countries e.g. India, Africa, Asia never had flags until they got independence.

I haven't seen the Stars & Stripes flying over the Iraqi Parliament, the Iraqis are using their own sovereign colours.

[louis bernard]

ya planting incendiary devices in shops and kneecapping young hoods is much more noble.

OR PERHAPS FIREBOMBING IRAQIS FROM RAF PLANES IS MORE NOBLE?

No one firebombs Iraqis from planes, stop your hysteria.

The invaders in Iraq have used napalm and white phosphorous on residential areas in Iraq. Civilians in the area were not forewarned and suffered the bulk of the casualties. Not that the invaders give a ********* *********.
Yet native Irishmen planting a few incendiaries in an empty building at 3 in the morning (in their own country)are deemed terrorists.
The type of Irishman who joins the B.A is like the nerdy kid who tries to suck up to the school bully and hits small kids to gain approval from the bully. I know of several Northern Catholics who joined up years ago and cant return now for their shame. Rightly disowned by their friends and families they live a pathetic existence, unable to attend even family funerals (mostly because they cant look people in the eye). One rung up the ladder from the lowly informer.

Repeat, the RAF has not used napalm in Iraq, the posters claim.

As for WP in Falluja residents had ample time to evacutate.

WP is not illegal if used as in illuminous shells.


Quote :

"Yet native Irishmen planting a few incendiaries in an empty building at 3 in the morning (in their own country)are deemed terrorists."

...................Is that all the PIRA did, and there was me thinking they used napalm at the Le Mon hotel against civilians.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You are wasting your time arguing with him, like all public house republicans he will only believe what he wants to believe. He even claims to know about he standard of soldiering in the British Army, (maybe he heard some “expert” in the pub talking about it) he’s best ignored.

[Kalif]

[quote=louis bernard]

ya planting incendiary devices in shops and kneecapping young hoods is much more noble.

OR PERHAPS FIREBOMBING IRAQIS FROM RAF PLANES IS MORE NOBLE?

No one firebombs Iraqis from planes, stop your hysteria.

The invaders in Iraq have used napalm and white phosphorous on residential areas in Iraq. Civilians in the area were not forewarned and suffered the bulk of the casualties. Not that the invaders give a ********* *********.
Yet native Irishmen planting a few incendiaries in an empty building at 3 in the morning (in their own country)are deemed terrorists.
The type of Irishman who joins the B.A is like the nerdy kid who tries to suck up to the school bully and hits small kids to gain approval from the bully. I know of several Northern Catholics who joined up years ago and cant return now for their shame. Rightly disowned by their friends and families they live a pathetic existence, unable to attend even family funerals (mostly because they cant look people in the eye). One rung up the ladder from the lowly informer.

Repeat, the RAF has not used napalm in Iraq, the posters claim.

As for WP in Falluja residents had ample time to evacutate.

WP is not illegal if used as in illuminous shells.


Quote :

"Yet native Irishmen planting a few incendiaries in an empty building at 3 in the morning (in their own country)are deemed terrorists."

...................Is that all the PIRA did, and there was me thinking they used napalm at the Le Mon hotel against civilians.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You are wasting your time arguing with him, like all public house republicans he will only believe what he wants to believe. He even claims to know about he standard of soldiering in the British Army, (maybe he heard some “expert” in the pub talking about it) he’s best ignored.[/quote:2a9gihtr]




Unhinged is the correct term I believe.

[CelticAtheist]

I stand by comments.

There was more hope in America for the Irish than there ever was or will be in Britain....... that's for certain.

9% of the Union Army being Irish? Well without that number the war would have lasted probably 33% longer and more people would have died.

Finally to mention; America doesn't hold executive rule over each country's government in each nation that they are fighting in......... Britain ruled all their colonies from westminster and flew her flag over those countries e.g. India, Africa, Asia never had flags until they got independence.

I haven't seen the Stars & Stripes flying over the Iraqi Parliament, the Iraqis are using their own sovereign colours.

Ha, the Iraqi government is a pathetic puppet government.
They can't do anything without the US's say-so, nor do they have national soveriegnty over their natural resources.

The Americans are doing EXACTLY what the Brits did, but they're doing it more subtly perhaps.