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    Martin McGuinness on RSF and Ian Paisley

    http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/McG...ley.4053684.jp

    MARTIN McGuinness has said he would take Ian Paisley over Republican Sinn Fein "any time".

    Mr McGuinness said: "What really struck me about his trip to Cork was, I am told, that several dozen Republican Sinn Fein protestors protested against his visit, and when that happened, I sat back and just thought to myself who is doing more to end division on this island? Ian Paisley or the so-called Republican Sinn Fein protestors?

    "And I said give me Ian Paisley anytime."

    The Deputy First Minister, revealed he and the First Minister got on from their first meeting.

    "He totally threw me when he said 'I think one of the first things we should do is tell British direct rule minister Peter Hain to get out of Stormont Castle' and within 20 minutes we had signed our first joint letter together," said the Deputy First Minister.

    "Four days later Peter Hain and his officials had left the castle and, in going, even took the lightbulbs with them. And that's not a made-up yarn."

    Progress

    "What that said to me was that the DUP, led by Ian Paisley, wanted to be in a process, where decisions were taken here by people who live here and represent people here, and that there was a resentment against being told what to do by direct rule ministers.

    And that is something where I think there is common cause between the DUP and ourselves."
    This is an interesting article showing just how far the peace strategy has come but how far behind the learning curve RSF are.

    The contrast between Sinn Féin and Republican Sinn Féin couldn't be greater.

    Sinn Féin in government working for the people of the Six Counties in partnership with unionists.

    Republican Sinn Féin holding an ineffectual protest against Ian Paisley's daring to come to the 26 counties! Gee, how welcoming of them towards the unionist people's leader.

    Thus it is hardly surprising that Martin McGuinness even said that he would take Ian Paisley any time over RSF.
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    Course he prefers Ian, He obviously thinks he's a tremendous fellow altogeter.
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    RSF are goons with no alternative and a laughable agenda. They should wise up.
    "The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nem
    RSF are goons with no alternative and a laughable agenda. They should wise up.
    Indeed.
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    Indeed.[/quote]It is because of provisional policy and acceptance of British rule in Ireland that Paisley was 'in a foreign country' when he visited Cork. Republican Sinn Fein believe in Irish freedom, the advancement of the Republican Ideal and a 32 county Irish Republic.

    The contrast between the provisionals and Republican Sinn Féin couldn't be greater.
    AGREED.

    factual then states that Irish freedom is NOT an alternative for the provisional. And why would it be, the pickings are rich and favourable to those who work against teh Republic of Easter Week

    Here is the Republican response

    provos had adopted the unionist position

    Referring to a Republican protest in Cobh, Co. Cork, Martin McGuinness commented that outgoing DUP leader Ian Paisley has done more to end division than Republican Sinn Féin. A spokesperson for Republican Sinn Féin said that this was unsurprising as his party had now adopted the Unionist position.

    RSF Director of Publicity, Richard Walsh, said:

    “Mr. McGuinness asked who has done more to end division in Ireland – Ian Paisley or Republican Sinn Féin? Republican Sinn Féin has sought to address the root cause of conflict in Ireland, namely the cancerous British presence. However the removal of the British presence was precluded from the negotiations on the Stormont Agreement – a document which his party has signed up to.

    “The Provos have tried to silence any opposition to the Stormont sell-out of 1998. On the 22nd April, members of Republican Sinn Féin were refused entry to what was allegedly a public meeting in Silverbridge, Co. Armagh. They had gone there to confront Provo leaders, who were seeking to promote the Stormont Agreement on its tenth anniversary, and the first anniversary of the resurrection of the Stormont Assembly. But they did not wish for people to hear the opposing view – let alone in the heart of South Armagh.

    “Martin McGuinness says that he will entertain Ian Paisley over Republicans any day. This is hardly surprising given the fact that both he and his party have now adopted the Unionist position. But we in Republican Sinn Féin are committed to the ending of English rule in Ireland and the emancipation of the Irish people.”
    Freedom is not an alternative we are told, a new Ireland were the people can live without outside interferance and without corruption 'laughable'. Only partition only the status qou acceptable to the mere hirelings of the system. The only people who should wise up are the few deluded provos who actually belive that they are still in any way a Republican party. Unionists on one side of england s border, free staters on the other and nare a Republican to be found between ye. Factual is correct
    The contrast between Provisionals and Republican Sinn Féin couldn't be greater.

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    Ach, bog off. :P
    "The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).

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    While I think it's great that PSF can work with the DUP and vice versa, wouldn't it be better if they could have realised this before nearly 3000 people were murdered?
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    Nah, guapo, they only only realised that when Joe Hendron got elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infamous-el-guapo
    While I think it's great that PSF can work with the DUP and vice versa, wouldn't it be better if they could have realised this before nearly 3000 people were murdered?
    Wouldn't it have been nice if during the discussion of partition the British hadn't threatened annihilation on the Irish if they didn't accept partition. Wouldn't it have been nice if the British government hadn't "allowed" the separtists to be arm to the teeth. Wouldn't it have been nice if the northern statelet hadn't decided on sectarian legistlation as the basis of its foundation. Wouldn't it have been nice if the southern government had been strong enough internationally to influence for better conditions for the northern nationalists - even if they cared to do so. Alot of what if's.
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    Martin's former mentor, the late Sean Keenan will be spinning in his grave at Mc Guinness's transformation.
    I really think he (like a few other leading Provos) is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Too long with the enemy and he's now become one of them.

    Incidentally Paisley was picketed, not for being a Unionist but for being a British Minister. Not that long ago Martin was telling us the British presence was the root cause of division.
    Now that he and Paisley are aiding the British presence, he's brazenly moving the goalposts.
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