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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apparatchik
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    You're a fair gob************************e Apparatchik.. does writing big words make you feel better ? Seems like a kind of penis envy thing going on to be honest
    Hard when you realise you've mortgaged all your tomorrows against promises from a bankrupt bunch of yesterday's men.
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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apparatchik
    Sinn Fein is already in retreat in the South. It is seen as a crypto-fascist six-county entity: ironically, the quintessential partitionist party.
    1) SF isnt in retreat in the South. Its growing. 54 cllrs elected in the 2004 locals, up 33 seats from the previous election. Votes in the General election were also up on the previous election.
    2) Its hardly a partitionist party, in fact its the only non-partitionist party by virtue of the fact that its the only party operating in all 32 Counties.
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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    appairatits i've got a new avatar for ya

    We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.

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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amach na Casca
    Quote Originally Posted by Apparatchik
    Sinn Fein is already in retreat in the South. It is seen as a crypto-fascist six-county entity: ironically, the quintessential partitionist party.
    1) SF isnt in retreat in the South. Its growing. 54 cllrs elected in the 2004 locals, up 33 seats from the previous election. Votes in the General election were also up on the previous election.
    2) Its hardly a partitionist party, in fact its the only non-partitionist party by virtue of the fact that its the only party operating in all 32 Counties.
    Excellent post. Agree 110%.
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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    A browse of Sinn Fein's online shop is enough to induce the screaming heebie-jeebies in anyone already unnerved by the party'. There are T-shirts (€15) declaring 'I Still Hate Thatcher', 'You Can Never Kill The Revolutionaries' and 'IRA Undefeated Army', and a stylised one showing Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness against a red background a laChe Guevara.
    Just over 20 years ago, the IRA planted a bomb in Brighton with the intention of wiping out Britain's ruling Tory party. Even for the most accommodating of democrats, it is still too soon to catapult the bombers' political blood brothers into the government of a sovereign state.Though the IRA announced its historic ceasefire in August 1994, controversial events since then have raised doubts about its validity. There was the abduction of Bobby Tohill by the IRA in a Belfast pub and a gun-running prosecution in Florida in 1999. There is the Paul Quinn case and ongoing extortion and fuel laundering enquiries. Government ministers have accused republicans of organised crime in Dublin Port and punishment beatings have endured throughout the ceasefire.The question of how Sinn Fein is funded also needs to be satisfactorily answered. A House of Commons report estimated the IRA's annual income at between €7.5 million and €12 million.

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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    It really hurts some people to see how sucessful Adams and McGuinness are just look at the vote the get in their own areas, thats what counts they have their people with them

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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl
    It really hurts some people to see how sucessful Adams and McGuinness are just look at the vote the get in their own areas, thats what counts they have their people with them
    They've passed their high water mark in the South.

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    Some people are making a lot of S,F losing a seat inthe last election but their optimism does not
    hold up, they increased their vote by about 20000, they wil do the same in the next election, after all the last government lost 6 seats. S.F will be in government after the next election. I know that will annoy some F.G people but in fairness in time they wii accept this new era

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    Re: Have the kneecappers got a future in a federal Ireland?

    A Federal Ireland has been the policy of Republican Sinn Féin since 1970. The diseased Provos fell away from this objective when they left the Republican Movement in 1986. There is no place in our society for Brit-loving Provos.

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    I know some people find it hard to accept that Martin McGuinness is jont boss in N.I but those who stood against him got a poor vote. He has the people behind him and thats what count.

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