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    Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unity

    This was a recent letter in the Derry Journal from this group, signed Danny McBrearty (anyone know this man?)

    http://www.derryjournal.com/3911/We-rej ... 3783304.jp

    This group seems a little different that other "dissident" groups in that is clearly says it does not advocate a return to armed struggle. If you take them on their word on that, I am wondering again what form of activity this group is pursuing, and what tangible form of support it is trying to gain. It clearly does not support the PSNI, but what then does it proposed for policing? Community policing a la the provos during the war? But how does that mesh with the alleged statement of not wanting a return to armed struggle? Is community policing backed up by baseball bats OK, but guns and semtex aimed at the brits is not? And outside the return to armed struggle, what does this group present as its path to a UI?

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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by tiocfaidh
    This was a recent letter in the Derry Journal from this group, signed Danny McBrearty (anyone know this man?)

    http://www.derryjournal.com/3911/We-rej ... 3783304.jp

    This group seems a little different that other "dissident" groups in that is clearly says it does not advocate a return to armed struggle. If you take them on their word on that, I am wondering again what form of activity this group is pursuing, and what tangible form of support it is trying to gain. It clearly does not support the PSNI, but what then does it proposed for policing? Community policing a la the provos during the war? But how does that mesh with the alleged statement of not wanting a return to armed struggle? Is community policing backed up by baseball bats OK, but guns and semtex aimed at the brits is not? And outside the return to armed struggle, what does this group present as its path to a UI?

    Could this mean there is a political republican opposition to SF?
    It would be good if someone in the group could explain.

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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by cactus flower
    Quote Originally Posted by tiocfaidh
    This was a recent letter in the Derry Journal from this group, signed Danny McBrearty (anyone know this man?)

    http://www.derryjournal.com/3911/We-rej ... 3783304.jp

    This group seems a little different that other "dissident" groups in that is clearly says it does not advocate a return to armed struggle. If you take them on their word on that, I am wondering again what form of activity this group is pursuing, and what tangible form of support it is trying to gain. It clearly does not support the PSNI, but what then does it proposed for policing? Community policing a la the provos during the war? But how does that mesh with the alleged statement of not wanting a return to armed struggle? Is community policing backed up by baseball bats OK, but guns and semtex aimed at the brits is not? And outside the return to armed struggle, what does this group present as its path to a UI?

    Could this mean there is a political republican opposition to SF?
    It would be good if someone in the group could explain.

    their website is here

    http://www.concernedrepublicans.tk/

    there are a number of political republican groups that oppose sinn fein policies regarding the occupation . 32 CSM , RSF , IRSP , Eirigí

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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by tiocfaidh
    This was a recent letter in the Derry Journal from this group, signed Danny McBrearty (anyone know this man?)

    http://www.derryjournal.com/3911/We-rej ... 3783304.jp

    This group seems a little different that other "dissident" groups in that is clearly says it does not advocate a return to armed struggle.
    Neither do 32 csm , IRSP or Eirigí . Im unsure of RSFs position . Supporting the right of Irish citizens to resist the occupation and assert their sovereignty through arms in the face of its armed violation does not equate to advocating a return to armed struggle .

    [quote:1mxt8jca]If you take them on their word on that, I am wondering again what form of activity this group is pursuing, and what tangible form of support it is trying to gain.
    i thought it obvious that it advocated unity amongst republicans in opposition to the occupying forces and the occupation of their country


    It clearly does not support the PSNI, but what then does it proposed for policing? Community policing a la the provos during the war?
    that wasnt community policing , it was the community being policed by the provos . The community had little or no input into it . It got much worse following the end of that phase of conflict , criminally depraved in fact .

    But how does that mesh with the alleged statement of not wanting a return to armed struggle? Is community policing backed up by baseball bats OK, but guns and semtex aimed at the brits is not? And outside the return to armed struggle, what does this group present as its path to a UI?
    [/quote:1mxt8jca]

    unity and democracy with an end to nationalist politicians telling lies to the nationalist community , from what i can see anyway

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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by merle haggard
    Quote Originally Posted by cactus flower":3oyor1ks][quote=tiocfaidh]This was a recent letter in the Derry Journal from this group, signed Danny McBrearty (anyone know this man?)

    [url="http://www.derryjournal.com/3911/We-reject-the-term-no.3783304.jp
    http://www.derryjournal.com/3911/We-rej ... 3783304.jp[/url]

    This group seems a little different that other "dissident" groups in that is clearly says it does not advocate a return to armed struggle. If you take them on their word on that, I am wondering again what form of activity this group is pursuing, and what tangible form of support it is trying to gain. It clearly does not support the PSNI, but what then does it proposed for policing? Community policing a la the provos during the war? But how does that mesh with the alleged statement of not wanting a return to armed struggle? Is community policing backed up by baseball bats OK, but guns and semtex aimed at the brits is not? And outside the return to armed struggle, what does this group present as its path to a UI?

    Could this mean there is a political republican opposition to SF?
    It would be good if someone in the group could explain.

    their website is here

    http://www.concernedrepublicans.tk/

    there are a number of political republican groups that oppose sinn fein policies regarding the occupation . 32 CSM , RSF , IRSP , Eirigí[/quote:3oyor1ks]


    Thanks very much for the link. My problem with some groups is their advocacy/use of violence which seems to me to be entirely counterproductive where we are today.

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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by tiocfaidh
    This was a recent letter in the Derry Journal from this group, signed Danny McBrearty (anyone know this man?)

    http://www.derryjournal.com/3911/We-rej ... 3783304.jp

    This group seems a little different that other "dissident" groups in that is clearly says it does not advocate a return to armed struggle. If you take them on their word on that, I am wondering again what form of activity this group is pursuing, and what tangible form of support it is trying to gain. It clearly does not support the PSNI, but what then does it proposed for policing? Community policing a la the provos during the war? But how does that mesh with the alleged statement of not wanting a return to armed struggle? Is community policing backed up by baseball bats OK, but guns and semtex aimed at the brits is not? And outside the return to armed struggle, what does this group present as its path to a UI?
    Adams' hegemony at the top of Sinn Fein necessarily nurtured the seeds of the kneecappers' destruction. He facilitated the Brits in hiring very good spies, then in hiring some more. Then gave it time to work. The murders, the long wait and the compromises of the exit strategy ground the moderates to dust. Then Adams waited some more. After that, the politicians could make their entrance. But people have a way of making their own minds up about who they want to represent them. SF got the bum's rush in the South in May. Voters in the North are now seeking out less grisly, MI5–infested alternatives...

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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Voters in the six counties time and time again put their cross next to Sinn Féin.

    These other groups get basically no votes. They are politically irrelevant.
    RIRA not in my name-Traitors to Ireland MMcGuinness; People are entitled to cultural & social equality MLMcDonald; We have a length to go understanding unionism GAdams

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    I acknowledge that fact my friend, however, these people do have alot of grassroots support, particularly in Derry. I mean, sure M Anderson and McCartney got elected, it was obvious they would, but Peggy O'Hara did acrue alot of votes...and no, im not in this group. (obviously)
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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by factual
    Voters in the six counties time and time again put their cross next to Sinn Féin.

    These other groups get basically no votes. They are politically irrelevant.
    In the long run how relevant are the likes of Adams and McGuinness without Crown Forces to oppose them?

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    Re: Reject term 'no hopers', say Republican Network for Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Apparatchik
    Quote Originally Posted by factual
    Voters in the six counties time and time again put their cross next to Sinn Féin.

    These other groups get basically no votes. They are politically irrelevant.
    In the long run how relevant are the likes of Adams and McGuinness without Crown Forces to oppose them?
    RIRA not in my name-Traitors to Ireland MMcGuinness; People are entitled to cultural & social equality MLMcDonald; We have a length to go understanding unionism GAdams

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