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    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal View Post
    Question, Why were the counties of Fermanagh and Tyrone part of Northern Ireland in the first place. At the time of partition Only 4 of the 6 counties had a Protestant majority. Why did they have 6 counties instead of 4 in the new Northern Irish state. The argument seems to have been from a unionist side that they needed them to make NI economically viable but this has proven false. Not sure about Tyrone at partition but Fermanagh would have had more in common with the south, with it having a low-density mainly rural and agricultural society compared to the more developed and much more densly populated areas east of the Bann. This would have also helped Donegal slightly as they would have had a more direct route to the eastern side of Ireland and not been as cut off from the Republic as the current situation has them.
    For all the talk of Ulster - the majority of people in Ulster, never mind throughout the whole country, would have accepted Home Rule. The planters didn't have a majority in Ulster, so the only way they could deny the democratic will of the people was to settle for 6 of 9 county Ulster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk Back View Post
    For all the talk of Ulster - the majority of people in Ulster, never mind throughout the who country, would have accepted Home Rule. The planters didn't have a majority in Ulster, so they only way they could deny the democratic will of the people was to settle for 6 of 9 county Ulster.
    What's all this rubbish about a 9 county Ulster?

    We're the glorious six counties under British rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    When was NI itself partitioned and into what parts? As NI didn't exist before Ireland as a whole was partitioned you are talking nonsense.... NI is the same place as it was when Ireland was partitioned. To be re-partitioned NI itself would have had to have been partitioned since then.

    No wonder you lads keep losing and no wonder we British have run rings around you over the years .....
    You had 32 counties, what happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CastleRay View Post
    Is that the west belfast expansion to derriaghy and the boundary change plus overflow of west belfast to Crumlin and surrounding?
    During the run up to an election ( can`t remember which one - so many ) it was said that the population of West Belfast had fallen. Well Sammy Wilson had a right snigger in front of the camera. He somewhat lost his sense of humour when it transpired they hadn`t fallen off the planet. No they moved in their thousands into Lagan Valley, South Antrim and South Belfast.

    Who is laughing now Sammy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by death or glory View Post
    What's all this rubbish about a 9 county Ulster?

    We're the glorious six counties under British rule.
    Ye are only Two Thirds of what Ye should be and thats often quite Obvious .
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    Quote Originally Posted by comet View Post
    During the run up to an election ( can`t remember which one - so many ) it was said that the population of West Belfast had fallen. Well Sammy Wilson had a right snigger in front of the camera. He somewhat lost his sense of humour when it transpired they hadn`t fallen off the planet. No they moved in their thousands into Lagan Valley, South Antrim and South Belfast.

    Who is laughing now Sammy?
    That's been happening on every side of the city. Belfast used to have a much greater population and the density has been greatly reduced with the growth of towns outside becoming part of Belfast's suburbia. Lisburn (south and west Belfast has moved there in droves over the last decade), Newtownabbey (north Belfast has drifted up there) and Dundonald (East Belfast but strangely in Lisburn Council) are basically all part of Belfast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by death or glory View Post
    What's all this rubbish about a 9 county Ulster?

    We're the glorious six counties under British rule.
    Yes - Ulster is one of Ireland's historical provinces - it was later divided by the English into baronies and counties - 9 counties to be exact - hence the present occupied 6 counties is not Ulster - it is merely IN Ulster - which is IN Ireland.

    Here is some more news for you - man landed on the moon.
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