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    True north

    Mr Benn, chairman of the Exiting the EU Select Committee, had said: "It is becoming increasingly clear there's a contradiction between, on the one hand the Government's clearly stated desire that there should be no return to a hard border, no customs border, and its determination to leave the customs union and the single market."

    David Davis says there are alternatives for Irish border after Brexit | Politics | News | Express.co.uk


    Lets be clear it is possible to implement a Hard border around northern Ireland. You build a wall and put guards on the check points and the job is done.

    This could work out a bit costly so one could keep the existing border but build the economic border around a smaller area and call it "True North". In True North firms who wish to take advantage of being outside the EU could set up their business and the rest of the Island could stay in the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McSlaggart View Post
    Mr Benn, chairman of the Exiting the EU Select Committee, had said: "It is becoming increasingly clear there's a contradiction between, on the one hand the Government's clearly stated desire that there should be no return to a hard border, no customs border, and its determination to leave the customs union and the single market."

    David Davis says there are alternatives for Irish border after Brexit | Politics | News | Express.co.uk


    Lets be clear it is possible to implement a Hard border around northern Ireland. You build a wall and put guards on the check points and the job is done.

    This could work out a bit costly so one could keep the existing border but build the economic border around a smaller area and call it "True North". In True North firms who wish to take advantage of being outside the EU could set up their business and the rest of the Island could stay in the EU.

    The Irish Sea, ie the ports seem a better, less costly bet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Se0samh View Post
    The Irish Sea, ie the ports seem a better, less costly bet...
    Its a mad idea but heck its better than someone trying to implement a border between Strabane and Lifford. Put the hard border around Greater Larne and call it true north.
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    I came across a great word today for what the UK government are doing when they bluster about the border: tansplaining.
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    Wouldnt this be perfect .... if the Crackpots would only use some common sense NI could have the best of both worlds and actually prosper for a change...

    But they wont, which shows their utter stupidity because if they did embrace this kind of thing then people here would have much less reason to change the status quo re border polls etc... The DUP & Unionism will simply continue to do what they always do ... i.e. drive a wedge between the North east of Ireland and their desire for a continued United Kingdom .. silly billies...

    The controversial plan would mean Northern Ireland joining the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in its own right post-Brexit.

    Sources claim the EU wants to mirror the example of Hong Kong, which is part of China but also an individual member of the WTO.

    This would allow European regulations and the EU customs union could continue to apply to Ulster, while it remains in the UK.



    Brexit latest news: Fury at EU 'plot to split Northern Ireland from UK' | Politics | News | Express.co.uk
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    https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...my-and-society

    From 29th April 2013
    So we’re considering issues like how to make enterprise zones a more attractive option.
    If prior agreement(s) allow for creation of enterprise zones
    why not just have one instead of several- a single enterprise zone within the customs union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McSlaggart View Post


    Lets be clear it is possible to implement a Hard border around northern Ireland. You build a wall and put guards on the check points and the job is done.

    This is the flaw in your reasoning.
    It is not possible to implement in any effective way, as anyone with any real experience of the areas involved knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AhNowStop View Post
    Wouldnt this be perfect .... if the Crackpots would only use some common sense NI could have the best of both worlds and actually prosper for a change...

    But they wont, which shows their utter stupidity because if they did embrace this kind of thing then people here would have much less reason to change the status quo re border polls etc... The DUP & Unionism will simply continue to do what they always do ... i.e. drive a wedge between the North east of Ireland and their desire for a continued United Kingdom .. silly billies...

    The controversial plan would mean Northern Ireland joining the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in its own right post-Brexit.

    Sources claim the EU wants to mirror the example of Hong Kong, which is part of China but also an individual member of the WTO.

    This would allow European regulations and the EU customs union could continue to apply to Ulster, while it remains in the UK.



    Brexit latest news: Fury at EU 'plot to split Northern Ireland from UK' | Politics | News | Express.co.uk
    is british opposition to idea's like this a negotiating tactic or a red line issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ON THE ONE ROAD View Post
    is british opposition to idea's like this a negotiating tactic or a red line issue?
    I would say DUP/Unionist opposition is a red liner .... and that will follow through to the Tories..
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    Quote Originally Posted by AhNowStop View Post
    I would say DUP/Unionist opposition is a red liner .... and that will follow through to the Tories..
    fair point.

    Will be interesting to see if people in england go to the wire on it. Solidarity is honorable but if it starts hitting the pocket motive can switch to the practical.
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