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Kal, I think history will remember Paisley fondly in just the way it remembers Idi Amin fondly
Kal, I think history will remember Paisley fondly in just the way it remembers Idi Amin fondly
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Paisley's adored in the republic he said so himself.
RTE can make fools out of an awful lot of people.
The man who created all the trouble and prevented powersharing for decades is not a peacemaker.
What has Paisley ever done to make peace?
And what has happened Ireland when the man who they all admire is the leading unionist hate preacher who tried to destory the irish catholic classes in the north and worked alongside and helped recruit for loyalist paramilitaries?
The unionist regime caused the troubles, now Paisley and his ilk sit there as if theyre some great peacemakers and they never done a thing wrong.
Abstinence makes the Church grow fondlers.
I can assure you he isn't a chara. There are many here who would love five minutes alone with him in a locked room if you get my drift.
One of the moderators on here really wrecks my head with his/her power mad ego
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Paisley used ordinary peoples fears to gain power and keep himself in power. He is easily as much to blame for the deaths of 100's in the North. He is so easily forgiven by so many in south yet SF is villified in so many quarters, it is amazing. I was at a DUP rally out of nosiness in the early 90's and one speaker told the large audience that 100's of protestants in the south are burned out of their homes on a weekly basis and there are no jobs for them. This was believed fully by the audience. The DUP have used scare mongering like this to keep the deep wounds in NI alive as much as the IRA did.
We can only hope that SF and the SDLP continue to push for a united Ireland.
Was an interesting program although it lacked any real depth. It would have been interesting to ahve seen someone from the QUB Politics department come in. Gorman seemed to have a good rapport with the man although the story of his illness was tackled with gloves. But that is a difficult subject to deal with anyway.
It did show quite well, how that firebrand preacher ethos remained something that gelled everything together. Paisley is quite clever in touching the Protestant sensibilities in that way and to tie that together with the road to St. Andrews. If you put the sackcloth and ashes speech in that context I think you can see that he needed to push his audience in that direction for him to be able to pull them away again. That seemed to be the tenure of the past few years anyway. And in that sense quite similar to what Trimble had to do, only the horizontal structure of his party was against him.
"The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).
Of course you do, you're a right winger and a proud homophobe.
"John Bull has got his hand down your pants and his fist around your bollox and you can't see it."
Not true...I neither fear or hate homosexuals. I think their relationships and activities are inferior to heterosexual ones but that's as far as it goes.Of course you do, you're a right winger and a proud homophobe.
Don't post inaccuracies.
The guy is definitely a mental case - how could someone with an ounce of conscience live with all he did?
Dunno Joel, maybe you should ask Mr. Bush?
"The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).
It was the most blatantly hagiographic and fawning piece of television since the Dessie O'Malley snowjob broadcast to RTE a few years ago.
How could a documentary worth its salt about Paisley gloss over the DUP leaders links to loyalist paramilitaries, the Third Force, waving firearms certificates on the hillsides, the maroon berets and lots of other less than edifying incarnations of Paisley, now dubbed the Peacemaker.
According to Gorman, the transformation undergone by McGuinness is from "terrorist” to ”spacemaker”.
it's debateable as to who actually made the peace in the North? was it really Paisley? Or was it the Republicans? But in the final analysis, this was a one sided 'documentary' from RTE which shows that station is not meeting its public service remit to be fair and impartial.
I agree with the poster who said that part of Paisley's appeal among nationalists is due to the redemption factor - but no nationalist who lived through the Troubles - and clearly Gorman did so at a safe distance from Belfast! - would forget that there's a hell of a lot of redeeming to occur.
The same could be said for Martin McGuinness - but paramilitary/guerilla or even insurgent would have been a better description - not terrorist. And he's done more than create space since he came to power.
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